Thanks! A pattern seems to be developing. The new consumer grade CF
recorders and usb/fw audio interfaces with mic inputs might be better
matched for concerts, instrument and studio recording. Limited mic
pre gain might allow manufs to print better signal to noise specs.
The mic pres on the DAT walkmans, the MD's and HiMD's still have a
leg up in the mic gain dept. Rob D
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At 9:38 PM +0100 3/2/05, Klas Strandberg wrote:
>No, but our member Marco Pesente had a look at the Edirol gain and found i=
t
>to be nearly 10 db lower than Sony D8. Still sufficient, though, as I see
>it. When it is so quiet around that you need higher gain, then you get too
>much of mic noise anyway unless you have a really low noise mic, like MKH.
>Such a mic has enough enough output.
>
>Edirol has a "1-5" selection of microphone settings" simulating famous (??=
)
>microphones. (they say, or mean...)
>I would like to know exactly what these effects do. When just listening to
>normal room ambience and speaking into the mic, I don't hear much
>difference between them. But I have just sniffed a bit at the Edirol. Test
>will continue, but don't wait for a full technical report. I am mainly
>going to use my ears only and how it works in practice, in the bush.
>
>Klas.
>
>At 17:02 2005-03-02, you wrote:
>
>>Might be a while for a price break on mic pre
>>quality though, not sure marantz will lead the
>>way.
>>
>>Klas's findings on the R-1's decent mic pre
>>performance are encouraging. I assume one could
>>run the xlr outputs from Denecke PS-2 phantom
>>power supply to the R-1's PIP input with a simple
>>adapter (tie-off one side of the balanced
>>signals). Correct?
>>
>>The other issue might be mic pre gain on the
>>R-1-- needs to be about 55dB or more for quiet
>>locations from my experience (ref 65dB for the
>>MP-2). Klas, did you looking into or notice
>>anything about mic pre gain you can report?
>>
>> Rob D.
>>
>> =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
>>
>>At 8:56 AM -0500 3/2/05, Lang Elliott wrote:
>> >The Oade Brothers had this to say about the Marantz PMD 660:
>> >
>> >We may not carry that as it has a 65dB signal to noise ration, too noi=
sy
>> >for most uses except transcription. The PMD671 is expected to ship in
>> >May and be a 24 bit box, we hope this one has usable mic preamps !
>> >
>> >Lang
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I throughly agree about CF media cost and
>> >limitations on trips. $500 for a 16bit CF
>> >recorder with phantom the main feature,.. I'd
>> >consider a NH800 for $220 and $450-550 for a used
>> >MP-2 if there was any chance the person wanted to
>> >make recordings under quiet conditions. The Sony
>> >may provide some plusses like $6 1GB discs,
>> >optical in and several hours on one A bat. If
>> >your friend has hot condenser mics, there's also
>> >the very compact Deneck PS-2 which provide 48
>> >volts phantom on batteries for $180. The 660
>> >looks easier to operate, e.g. big buttons. Rob D.
>> >
>> >At 3:03 AM +0000 3/2/05, John Hartog wrote:
>> >>Lang,
>> >>I have been using a PMD 670 for a little more than a year and I
>> >>like it pretty well, but one thing worth considering is the price of
>> >>compact flash memory. Even with prices dropping, If you plan on
>> >>being away from your home without a computer for very long then
>> >>the memory costs can pile up - figure about $60 a GB at todays
>> >>prices.
>> >> For me I spent about $700 for the Pmd 670 and then spent
>> >>about $400 more on CF cards over the last year.
>> >>I went on a week long trip last fall and I ran short of memory after
>> >>only three days. For the rest of the trip I ran it in rec. pause and
>> >>line out to a consumer minidisc recorder.
>> >>And I still need more memory, so for all this money I could have
>> >>bought a Portadisc with quieter pres and more gain.
>> >>-John Hartog
>> >>
>> >>--- In Lang Elliott
>> >><> wrote:
>> >>> Hey guys!
>> >>>
>> >>> When is the Marantz PMD 660 supposed to appear on the
>> >>scene? Is it better in
>> >>> some respects than the MD 670, which is more expensive? Or
> > >>is the 670 the
>> >>> better recorder?
>> >>>
>> >>> A friend needs an inexpensive two track, but with phantom
>> >>power, fairly
>> >>> decent preamps, and long run time preferably with
>> >>conventional AAs. Looks
>> >>> like the 670 requires a special battery.
> > >>>
> > >>> We might have discussed this in the group, but I've been so
>> >>busy lately that
>> >>> I haven't been reading all the posts.
>> >>>
> > >> > Lang
>
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