Academics v birdwatchers

To: michael norris <>
Subject: Academics v birdwatchers
From: david taylor <>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:41:04 +1000
Michael - with very great respect not I (or I believe Russell) were in any way 
suggesting that amateurs dont have a place. To acknowledge the importance of 
one group shouldnt be taken as an implication that another group isnt- 
certainly not what i was saying. Many great birders ( and myself included)  I 
know contribute enormously to birds, birding and their study and conservation 
in a miriad of ways every day including research, surveys etc etc and I know 
that as an example that the Brisbane City Council works closely with local 
birders in the collection of data.    indeed I think everyday birders ( if 
thats the right term) do get recognition for their contribution to bird science.

However there are also many highly skilled and committed scientists, 
researchers and educators who also contribute enormously in different and 
critically important ways

 As i said in my post - theres a place for all of us.


David Taylor

On 05/03/2010, at 5:40 PM, michael norris wrote:

> Hi Russell and all
> With very great respect that misses the point that amateurs have a lot to 
> offer (as you do in your way).
> Citizen science is highly respected across the globe but it seems that we in 
> Australia are supposed to leave it to the experts.
> Challenge a Council Plan and you may be asked what authority there is for the 
> bird data.
> And how many Councils encourage citizen science in their search for 
> evidence-based policies?
> We birdos need encouragement - not barriers - to contributing to policy.
> Michael Norris
> The Bayside Leader is online. Click the map at

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