Academics v birdwatchers

To: "michael norris" <>
Subject: Academics v birdwatchers
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:30:58 +1100
I agree Michael. Where is the Australian equivalent of, say, the Cornell Lab of Ornithology and its citizen science programs? Our educational institutions seem to be far more interested in milking the foreign student cow than instituting any thing like citizen science programs. No wonder Australia doesn't produce enough graduates in "hard' Degrees.


Carl Clifford

On 05/03/2010, at 6:40 PM, michael norris wrote:

Hi Russell and all

With very great respect that misses the point that amateurs have a lot to offer (as you do in your way).

Citizen science is highly respected across the globe but it seems that we in Australia are supposed to leave it to the experts.

Challenge a Council Plan and you may be asked what authority there is for the bird data.

And how many Councils encourage citizen science in their search for evidence-based policies?

We birdos need encouragement - not barriers - to contributing to policy.

Michael Norris

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