Academics v birdwatchers

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Subject: Academics v birdwatchers
From: david taylor <>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 06:49:26 +1000
As a good ol simple birdwatcher without a hint of a degree to my name I have to 
say that one of my most enjoyable experiences was attending the Australasian 
Ornithological Conference in Perth  three years ago. I may not have understood 
the details on every presentation slide but what i was impressed with was the 
number of young, intelligent students and researchers committed to research 
into our wonderful birds. For mine those people who committ their time and 
effort to scientific research are of paramount importance and will help to 
ensure that my generation and the many after me continue to enjoy our wildlife.

Theres a place for all of us!


David Taylor

On 01/03/2010, at 6:50 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:

> Bob et al,
> There seems to be a rapidly growing "Dumb Pride" movement rapidly growing 
> world-wide, which seems to have originated in a certain western hemisphere 
> country. The aim of the movement is the "dumbing down" society, so bringing a 
> new form of civilisation, "Idiocracy" ( as seen in the movie of that name ). 
> I imagine that we will see the old adage "ignorance is bliss" will soon 
> become the mainstream lifestyle.
> Ah, that is better, who needs Andrews Liver Salts.
> Cheers,
> Carl Clifford
> On 01/03/2010, at 7:00 PM, Bob Green wrote:
> As someone who has attended the last two Australasian Ornithological 
> Conferences, and not myself being an academic, I found the attendees 
> approachable, willing to help and offer advice, friendly, ready for a chat 
> and a drink, and a whole lot of fun. And to enjoy a field trip with some of 
> the countries best field ornithologists is worth the trip on its own. I think 
> the point is being missed in all this discussion on the "barrier" between 
> academics and "birdwatchers".
> I think the only people building Great Walls of China to keep the rabbits out 
> are the mis-informed or plain ignorant who don't seem to understand that we 
> are all interested in the same things and that some of these academics are 
> amongst the countries best birdwatchers, and that some of the real grass 
> roots knowledge about bird behaviour is gathered by amateurs.
> I suggest we get back to what is important and stop the relentless, constant, 
> repetitive niggling that makes being part of being in a bird group like this 
> bluntly a "BORE", if you don't like birdwatchers, then don't go birdwatching, 
> if you don't like academics then don't read journals or attend conferences.
> I don't like Top 40 music much so I don't listen to the radio, pretty easy 
> really.
> Bob Green
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