"'Carl Clifford'" <>, "'michael norris'" <>
Academics v birdwatchers
"Tony Russell" <>
Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:17:31 +1030
Having probably been one of the initiators of this debate I now find it's
become so convoluted that I for one have lost the thread !!
On Behalf Of Carl Clifford
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2010 7:01 PM
To: michael norris
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: Academics v birdwatchers
I agree Michael. Where is the Australian equivalent of, say, the
Cornell Lab of Ornithology and its citizen science programs? Our
educational institutions seem to be far more interested in milking the
foreign student cow than instituting any thing like citizen science
programs. No wonder Australia doesn't produce enough graduates in
On 05/03/2010, at 6:40 PM, michael norris wrote:
Hi Russell and all
With very great respect that misses the point that amateurs have a lot
to offer (as you do in your way).
Citizen science is highly respected across the globe but it seems that
we in Australia are supposed to leave it to the experts.
Challenge a Council Plan and you may be asked what authority there is
for the bird data.
And how many Councils encourage citizen science in their search for
We birdos need encouragement - not barriers - to contributing to policy.
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