Well said, David. I can't see how anyone who is serious about birds
could disagree with you.
I really don't think there is much more constructive comment to make
on this topic.
Thanks everyone.
Russell Woodford
Birding-Aus List Owner
Geelong Victoria Australia
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On 02/03/2010, at 7:49 AM, david taylor wrote:
As a good ol simple birdwatcher without a hint of a degree to my
name I have to say that one of my most enjoyable experiences was
attending the Australasian Ornithological Conference in Perth three
years ago. I may not have understood the details on every
presentation slide but what i was impressed with was the number of
young, intelligent students and researchers committed to research
into our wonderful birds. For mine those people who committ their
time and effort to scientific research are of paramount importance
and will help to ensure that my generation and the many after me
continue to enjoy our wildlife.
Theres a place for all of us!
cheers
David Taylor
On 01/03/2010, at 6:50 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
Bob et al,
There seems to be a rapidly growing "Dumb Pride" movement rapidly
growing world-wide, which seems to have originated in a certain
western hemisphere country. The aim of the movement is the "dumbing
down" society, so bringing a new form of civilisation,
"Idiocracy" ( as seen in the movie of that name ). I imagine that
we will see the old adage "ignorance is bliss" will soon become the
mainstream lifestyle.
Ah, that is better, who needs Andrews Liver Salts.
Cheers,
Carl Clifford
On 01/03/2010, at 7:00 PM, Bob Green wrote:
As someone who has attended the last two Australasian
Ornithological Conferences, and not myself being an academic, I
found the attendees approachable, willing to help and offer advice,
friendly, ready for a chat and a drink, and a whole lot of fun. And
to enjoy a field trip with some of the countries best field
ornithologists is worth the trip on its own. I think the point is
being missed in all this discussion on the "barrier" between
academics and "birdwatchers".
I think the only people building Great Walls of China to keep the
rabbits out are the mis-informed or plain ignorant who don't seem
to understand that we are all interested in the same things and
that some of these academics are amongst the countries best
birdwatchers, and that some of the real grass roots knowledge about
bird behaviour is gathered by amateurs.
I suggest we get back to what is important and stop the relentless,
constant, repetitive niggling that makes being part of being in a
bird group like this bluntly a "BORE", if you don't like
birdwatchers, then don't go birdwatching, if you don't like
academics then don't read journals or attend conferences.
I don't like Top 40 music much so I don't listen to the radio,
pretty easy really.
Bob Green
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