Mark Griswold wrote:
>>
>> I have a long recording that I would like to burn to CD, with new track
>> numbers at significant points.
>>
>> I have cut the piece into chunks using Peak LE on an OS 9 Mac and then
>> used Toast to burn the CD.
>>
>> I set the inter-track pause to 0, but there are still "hickups" between
>> tracks when I try to play the whole thing through. I was hoping that it
>> would play through as one long piece.
>>
>> Is there a trick to doing this using my setup? Is there another method
>> or software package that would be more appropriate?
Walter Knapp replied:
> A quick way, which I think Peak LE can do is to put a short fade in and
> fade out on each track. This insures no click. The click is usually a
> oddly truncated soundwave created during editing, not a problem of the
> burning software. Though some burning software can mess up too. Using
> the fade you insure this won't happen. The fade can be as short as a
> tiny fraction of a second. Will not be noticed as a gap.
I am also using Mac OS9, Peak LE, and Toast Deluxe (v 4.1). Plus an Iomega
Zip CD burner. I have never been able to solve the problem of hiccups
between tracks with gaps set at 0 seconds. There is no click though Walt,
just a micro pause. This is still noticeable even during a very quiet
passage of the recording. It is just not possible to make a seamless CD
with track numbers functioning as index points in a continuous sequence, as
Mark Griswold (and I) would like to do.
This morning I have tried a few tests, I have "auto snap to zero" always
ticked ON in Preferences (as suggested by Jeff Klatt). Micro fades don't
help either (as suggested by Walt). I always make up my tracks as separate
Peak files. I have also tried the Toast Deluxe function of "Disc At Once"
(DAO) whereby the entire CD can be made without turning off the laser. Thi=
s
function isn't supported by all CD burners however, and it doesn't work wit=
h
my Zip. The laser still turns off between tracks. The micro-pause problem
must be a Toast thing, and Walt is no doubt right about Jam being better.
But we still don't know if Jam will solve the micro-pause problem with Peak
LE and OS9. Or even if Jam is still available for OS9. Does anyone know?
Vicki Powys
Australia
(this is the rest of Walt's posting)
> I've used regular Peak for a long time so not sure on Peak LE's
> capabilities. For burning I've always used Jam, same company as Toast,
> but a specialist in burning red book compliant audio CD's. Intertrack
> gaps are fully settable in it, including overlapping. Toast has just
> fairly generic audio CD burning.
>
> A neat thing Jam allows is to set crossfades between tracks. If the
> material is well matched this will result in no noticeable transition at
> all, not even a sudden change in material. Jam's standard equal power 2
> second crossfade was used on the Georgia frog CD's chorus tracks. On
> listening to that species just come and go, it sounds like one long
> track, not the bunch of tracks it is. Covering from winter through
> spring and on into summer. I'd just put it together as a example of
> something they could do in mastering, but the studio doing the mastering
> had nothing as good for such things, so they used mine.
>
> Note Jam's crossfades like I use actually shorten the overall length as
> they start the new track fading in before the old one fades out. There
> are a bunch of options to set exactly the crossfade you want. Typically
> you set the timing of the crossfade start, the official track transition
> time and end of the crossfade. If you play a specific track you will
> have it start at the transition point. You also have a number of
> crossfade curve options. You can have it so the overall volume rises,
> lowers, or stays the same through the crossfade.
>
> If you upgrade to Peak 4.1, they are bundling Jam in with it right now.
> Not sure if that works with OS 9, I've been OSX for a while. It may be
> just the OSX version of Jam. The current version of Jam is not as stand
> alone as it used to be, it organizes the material then feeds it to Toast
> as a disk image to do the actual burning. I only recently upgraded to
> Jam 6, so have not discovered what all they changed or added.
>
> Note Jam will also preview your proposed CD without burning, so you can
> check if it's right. I strongly recommend Jam over Toast for burning
> audio CD's.
>
> Walt
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