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Re: mic pre with headphone out

Subject: Re: mic pre with headphone out
From: Rob Danielson <>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:52:22 -0500
Klas--
I used a Tascam DAP1 with mhk-20's to record low level rural ambiance 
over several nites last spring.  To my ears, there was less noise 
when I routed through the MP-2/balanced line out.
Rob D.

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>When using your Tascam, which microphones did you use?
>
>I have to ask, as I find the Tascam inputs quite okay. But perhaps I have to
>reconsider? I only use high-output mic's like Telinga and MKH and others,
>and I always get mic noise, not pre-amp noise.
>
>I let Walt comment on the usb preamp.
>
>Klas.
>
>At 11:32 2002-08-08 -0500, you wrote:
>>Klas--
>>Good point, but I haven't been able to find an affordable recorder
>>with a good, built-in pre. I used the built-in preamp in a $1500
>>Tascam DAP1 for years and the MP2 has a lot less noise and I think a
>>better sound.  You think the HHB pre will compare to something with
>>Lunddahls? Know of a recorder with a good pre that is than a $700 DAT
>>+ a $800 pre?  I use the -10dB line out into line in on my DAT.
>>
>>Pres may become even more important. In theory, don't you think a
>>good transparent pre --> 24 bit usb--> hard drive will impress us?
>>Rob
>>
>>
>>= = = = =
>>
>>
>>>Walt,
>>>
>>>apart from Gianni Pavan, who knows what he wants and have some special
>>>wishes, I agree, - I don't really understand the demand for pre-amps. What
>>>do people hope to get? If the pre-amp is perfect, it will not change
>>>anything except the gain!?
>>>It was very different some 20 years ago, when you had to squeeze the best
>>>out of a dynamic microphone. Or now, if you have to handle very strong sound
>>>pressure levels.
>>>
>>>Yes, Rob - Sounddevices use input transformers manufactured by Lunddahl, a
>>>father and a son living nearby my place. Best transformers in the world, no
>>>doupt! That a small Wisconsin company find such quality pieces all the way
>>>from Sweden, really shows their class and consideration! Salut!
>>>(On the other hand I question the use of input transformers, but that is
>>>another debate.)
>>>
>>>Klas.
>>>
>>>
>>>At 23:03 2002-08-07 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>Rob Danielson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Hello!
>>>>>   I use an MP-2 only almost daily with phantom power mics, the noise is
>>>>>   very, very low.  Sounddevices.com is a small company here in
>>>>>   Wisconsin. I'm sure they'd be happy to explain their specs and
>>>>>   discuss design and performance needs. Very nice folks.
>>>>>   Rob D.
>>>>
>>>>The usual quick and dirty test is to monitor it's output at full gain
>  >>>while switching the phantom power on and off. Not foolproof, but a good
>  >>>indicator, better if a way can be figured to apply full load to the power.
>  >>>
>  >>>Have you used it with rechargables? They seem to be giving 6 hours with
>>>>alkalines and that without phantom power.
>>>>
>>>>I've managed without a pre so far, but since I've now got the MKH
>>>>shotgun mics, I'll probably want one sooner or later. And the M/S
>>>>decoder is attractive so that I could monitor in stereo. It's one I've
>>>>been eyeing.
>>>>
>>>>Walt
>>>   >
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Rob Danielson
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University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee


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