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An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth

To: brian fleming <>
Subject: An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:06:21 +1000
And there are always people being busted at the barriers at the airports with 
all types of weird things, so there is the opportunity to smuggle in eggs or 
frozen carcasses by a desperate enough ticker. Wonder how long it takes to 
hatch Puffin eggs?

> On 10 Jun 2014, at 11:07, brian fleming <> wrote:
> 
> I suspect that the No Dead Birds rule may derive from a British bird-watching 
> scandal known as the 'Hastings Rarities'.  Can't say when, maybe 1920s.  At 
> any rate a celebrated bird watcher used to check for beach-washed specimens 
> in the migration seasons, and he recorded many very interesting birds, with 
> specimens to prove it.  A statistical analysis proved that the occurrence of 
> these birds  was much higher on his patch than anywhere else in Britain, and 
> the suggestion was that dead, maybe frozen specimens were being imported from 
> foreign parts for him to 'find'. This made all  'found dead' specimens 
> dubious. This was written up by the late James Fisher, author of several good 
> popular books on birdsand bird-watching.
> 
> Anthea Fleming
> 
> 
>> On 10/06/2014 8:41 AM, Martin Butterfield wrote:
>> What is the default position on natural vs human transport?  That is, if a
>> corpse is found somewhere do you start by counting it as getting there
>> naturally (eg washed ashore by currents; dropped by a raptor) or assume
>> that a human must have got it there?
>> 
>> Obviously the environment in which it is found plays a role (eg if in a
>> Peregrine's nest a very strong chance it was taken by the falcon when
>> alive) as does distance from known habitat (eg a WA endemic found in the
>> Sydney Domain would suggest some form of human intervention).
>> 
>> My personal position would be that natural means would be the starting
>> point and some evidence (tangible - say bullet holes - or circumstantial -
>> the endemic example) is required to declare it human-assisted.
>> 
>> Martin Butterfield
>> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>> 
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