All this has got me thinking! I'm racking my brains back over the last
twenty years or so trying to remember dead birds which I haven't counted in
my life list. My birding associates have always considered a dead specimen
to be un-tickable. Hm ! Think think think. There must be a beach washed bird
or two I can reconsider.
Tony.
-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus On Behalf Of
martin cachard
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2014 7:20 AM
To: greg clancy; Laurie Knight; carl clifford
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
hi Greg,
it has always amazed me why birders consider a dead specimen to be
un-tickable.
I have always counted such records of mine as tickable, but only if I
consider that it wasn't carried to where it was found by an unnatural
means...
the simple way that I look at it (& Greg, your Vanuatu Petrel is THE
perfect example for my point too!!) is if a dead beach-washed specimen is
good enough to be recorded as a national record, then why then isn't it also
good enough to be recorded by the finder on their national list as one of
their records!!!??
I think it's pretty simple really, & I've always been puzzled when records
of dead seabirds for eg are counted as records but observers in the main
don't tick them...
it seems very inconsistent to me - a record is a record, surely!!
cheers ,
martin cachard,
cairns
> From:
> To: ;
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:32:30 +1000
> CC:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
>
> I have a similar dilemma as I found the only specimen of the Vanuatu
> Petrel ever found in Australia and it constitutes the only record for
> Australia so can I tick it? It was found dead on the roadside north of
Port Macquarie.
> The only Blue Petrel that I have seen was dead on a beach so it is,
> similarly, not generally considered tickable. It doesn't really
> bother me as I am not a lister and although I enjoy seeing new species
> of birds I don't really know what my life total is.
>
> Dr Greg. P. Clancy
> Ecologist and Birding-wildlife Guide
> | PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
> | 02 6649 3153 | 0429 601 960
> http://www.gregclancyecologistguide.com
> http://gregswildliferamblings.blogspot.com.au/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laurie Knight
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:57 PM
> To: Carl Clifford
> Cc: Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
>
> G'day Carl
>
> That depends on what rules you have established for your patch list.
> Bear in mind, that list rules, like national constitutions, can have
amendments.
>
> Regards, Laurie.
>
> On 9 Jun 2014, at 7:04 pm, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>
> > I have a guest for the night, a young Tawny Frogmouth which was hit
> > by a car on the road outside the house. I have rung WIRES, and they
> > are trying to get here tonight, otherwise, if it lasts the night, I
> > will take it to the vet in the morning. It is the first TF I have
> > seen on my local patch, but have a bit of a moral dilemma as to whether
I can tick him.
> >
> > Carl Clifford
>
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