Ok, I've memories of hearing Rufous Scrub-birds at at least three locations
but not seeing them:
Brindle Creek area in the Border Ranges, Gloucester Tops, and Warrikimbe
Forest. None of these little fellows were dead, just the opposite going by
the noise they made, but see them ? Oh dear, spent hours waiting for them to
appear at dawn in places where other people have seen them easily. I still
haven't counted them, a great hole in my birdlist. Don't suppose I will see
them now, given my physical dilapidation and that I'm currently DQ'd from
driving for six months. Sob sob. ( that's weeping, not son of).
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: Sonja Ross
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2014 9:30 AM
To: Denise Goodfellow
Cc: Tony Russell; Birding Aus
Subject: An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
What a wonderful memory to have of Fred. I'm sure he'd have been delighted
at your mention of it!
Sonja
On 10/06/2014, at 9:47 AM, Denise Goodfellow <>
wrote:
> And to think I came close to performing mouth-to-beak resuscitation on an
expiring Garganey so that Fred Smith could tick it!
>
> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> PO Box 71
> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
>
> PhD candidate
> Vice-chair Wildlife Tourism Australia
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10 Jun 2014, at 8:45 am, Tony Russell <> wrote:
>
>> All this has got me thinking! I'm racking my brains back over the
>> last twenty years or so trying to remember dead birds which I haven't
>> counted in my life list. My birding associates have always considered
>> a dead specimen to be un-tickable. Hm ! Think think think. There must
>> be a beach washed bird or two I can reconsider.
>> Tony.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus On
>> Behalf Of martin cachard
>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2014 7:20 AM
>> To: greg clancy; Laurie Knight; carl clifford
>> Cc: Birding Aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
>>
>> hi Greg,
>>
>> it has always amazed me why birders consider a dead specimen to be
>> un-tickable.
>> I have always counted such records of mine as tickable, but only if I
>> consider that it wasn't carried to where it was found by an unnatural
>> means...
>>
>> the simple way that I look at it (& Greg, your Vanuatu Petrel is THE
>> perfect example for my point too!!) is if a dead beach-washed
>> specimen is good enough to be recorded as a national record, then why
>> then isn't it also good enough to be recorded by the finder on their
>> national list as one of their records!!!??
>>
>> I think it's pretty simple really, & I've always been puzzled when
>> records of dead seabirds for eg are counted as records but observers
>> in the main don't tick them...
>> it seems very inconsistent to me - a record is a record, surely!!
>>
>> cheers ,
>> martin cachard,
>> cairns
>>
>>
>>
>>> From:
>>> To: ;
>>> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:32:30 +1000
>>> CC:
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
>>>
>>> I have a similar dilemma as I found the only specimen of the Vanuatu
>>> Petrel ever found in Australia and it constitutes the only record
>>> for Australia so can I tick it? It was found dead on the roadside
>>> north of
>> Port Macquarie.
>>> The only Blue Petrel that I have seen was dead on a beach so it is,
>>> similarly, not generally considered tickable. It doesn't really
>>> bother me as I am not a lister and although I enjoy seeing new
>>> species of birds I don't really know what my life total is.
>>>
>>> Dr Greg. P. Clancy
>>> Ecologist and Birding-wildlife Guide
>>> | PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
>>> | 02 6649 3153 | 0429 601 960
>>> http://www.gregclancyecologistguide.com
>>> http://gregswildliferamblings.blogspot.com.au/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Laurie Knight
>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 9:57 PM
>>> To: Carl Clifford
>>> Cc: Birding Aus
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] An unfortunate way to tick a Frogmouth
>>>
>>> G'day Carl
>>>
>>> That depends on what rules you have established for your patch list.
>>> Bear in mind, that list rules, like national constitutions, can have
>> amendments.
>>>
>>> Regards, Laurie.
>>>
>>> On 9 Jun 2014, at 7:04 pm, Carl Clifford <>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a guest for the night, a young Tawny Frogmouth which was hit
>>>> by a car on the road outside the house. I have rung WIRES, and they
>>>> are trying to get here tonight, otherwise, if it lasts the night, I
>>>> will take it to the vet in the morning. It is the first TF I have
>>>> seen on my local patch, but have a bit of a moral dilemma as to
>>>> whether
>> I can tick him.
>>>>
>>>> Carl Clifford
>>>
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