Lesser Black-backed Gull at Broome tip- Birdforum Discussion Update

To: <>, Dimitris Bertzeletos <>, Birding-Aus <>
Subject: Lesser Black-backed Gull at Broome tip- Birdforum Discussion Update
From: John Graff <>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:19:24 +0800
Hi Mike and others, I won't touch the ID of this bird as I haven't the first 
clue on large northern hemisphere gulls, but as far as I can tell in the 
BirdForum discussion, one poster has voted for Baltic and two for Heuglin's? At 
any rate, unless I'm missing something major the BirdForum discussion seems to 
mirror the B-Aus one i.e. some think it's fuscus, some going for heuglini? 
Responses going for a subspecific ID - my underlines: First response says "I 
don't believe this bird is a fuscus (Baltic Gull) but may be an 
intermedius/graellsii Lesser Black-backed Gull but structurally leaning a 
little more towards Heuglins Gull which seem to be the more likely candidate 
for location. The very white headed appearance and not to 'grey' above would 
seem to illiminate 'tamyrensis'. images has so far only been viewed on my 
iphone and not on a large monitor so look forward to other comments on this 
bird" 2nd: "While looking a bit to dark for heuglini and perhaps better for 
  on upperparts tone - heuglini would be a better mord likely candidate for the 
location. When I put this on Facebook Yoav Perlman and  Ronald Klein and myself 
suggested heuglini while Ruud Altenburg suggested a possible fuscus."  3rd: 
"so, while it's sort of a tricky bird and i can't be 100% sure, my strong 
feeling is that this is a male larus fuscus fuscus." Cheers,John  > From: 

> To: ; 
> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:09:32 +1100
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Lesser Black-backed Gull at Broome tip- Birdforum  
> Discussion Update
> Dimitris, my reading of the Birdforum discussion is that the bird IS a 
> Lesser Black-backed Gull Larus fuscus fuscus, AKA Baltic Gull the first 
> choice for the identity in my original and subsequent postings. 
> Unfortunately you made a typo omitting the fourth-last-word "NOT" in first 
> sentence of your posting below thus reversing the meaning! Do you agree? Of 
> course we await to see if BARC will agree although their interest is only to 
> specific level - Larus fuscus!
> In the meantime George Swann tells me that the bird was there this morning 
> and appears very settled although possibly missing for half-an-hour 
> yesterday.
> Mike Carter
> 30 Canadian Bay Road
> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
> Tel  (03) 9787 7136

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