Lesser Black-backed Gull at Broome tip

Subject: Lesser Black-backed Gull at Broome tip
From: Chris Corben <>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:39:17 -0600
So has anyone tried to collect some genetic material from it? All you should need is a dropped feather, or a bit of gull crap or something and there would be a chance. It probably wouldn't resolve anything quickly, but in the long term it might. I don't get any strong impression it's going to be easily resolved any other way....

Cheers, Chris.

On 01/22/2013 05:27 AM, Nikolas Haass wrote:
Hi Mike,

No, this is not an incredible way to argue because it wasn't intended to be an 
experiment using the Broome gull as a 'control'. I was just wondering if the NW 
India birds, in turn, can be used as a valid 'control' for the Broome bird. 
There has been a long discussion about these birds in India and apparently it 
still has not been resolved which taxa winter in NW India. So, yes, the Indian 
birds could be heuglini OR taimyrensis.

To the Broome bird: It still doesn't look like a perfect L. f. fuscus to me for 
the reasons I discussed in previous mails. I know that some people favour L. f. 
fuscus, but to my knowledge a number of people besides me have made the case 
for L. f./h. heuglini, too. I agree that the bird is too dark for taimyrensis, 
which I suggested based on iris colour and bill shape. I am interested in the 
identification of this bird and contributed to it to my best knowledge.

BTW in case the bird will be proven to be a L. f. fuscus, I won't be 
embarrassed at all.



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