A very good suggestion Chris which should be put to George Swann in Broome,
cheers Jeff.
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On Behalf Of Chris Corben
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:39 PM
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Subject: Lesser Black-backed Gull at Broome tip
So has anyone tried to collect some genetic material from it? All you should
need is a dropped feather, or a bit of gull crap or something and there
would be a chance. It probably wouldn't resolve anything quickly, but in the
long term it might. I don't get any strong impression it's going to be
easily resolved any other way....
Cheers, Chris.
On 01/22/2013 05:27 AM, Nikolas Haass wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> No, this is not an incredible way to argue because it wasn't intended to
be an experiment using the Broome gull as a 'control'. I was just wondering
if the NW India birds, in turn, can be used as a valid 'control' for the
Broome bird. There has been a long discussion about these birds in India and
apparently it still has not been resolved which taxa winter in NW India. So,
yes, the Indian birds could be heuglini OR taimyrensis.
>
> To the Broome bird: It still doesn't look like a perfect L. f. fuscus to
me for the reasons I discussed in previous mails. I know that some people
favour L. f. fuscus, but to my knowledge a number of people besides me have
made the case for L. f./h. heuglini, too. I agree that the bird is too dark
for taimyrensis, which I suggested based on iris colour and bill shape. I am
interested in the identification of this bird and contributed to it to my
best knowledge.
>
> BTW in case the bird will be proven to be a L. f. fuscus, I won't be
embarrassed at all.
>
> Nikolas
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