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Birding-aus a forum?

To: Stephen Ambrose <>
Subject: Birding-aus a forum?
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:05:13 +1100
I think we had this debate a few weeks ago!

The consensus (and I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong) seemed
to be:

The Birdlines run by Eremaea are a great place for reporting species. It
would be nice if we could extend those to SA and WA.

Birding Aus is a great discussion group for general birding topics and for
RFIs etc. (Would be nice as other people suggested if people posted the
responses they got). Maybe it is time to get people to move rarity reports
to the Birdlines and trip reports somewhere else (see below) but you can't
legislate to do that, so unless Russell wants that to happen it won't.

Trip Reports - there are many repositories of these - Birding-Aus, Bird-o,
many overseas sites and BOCA has just launched a facility to allow our
members to submit reports. Would make life easier if they are in one place,
but Google seems to work pretty well. I guess as with other things the
market will decide and one (or more) will come to dominate.

Sightings databases - I think it is agreed that the Atlas is the only
repository for serious surveys and that the other systems have their
individual quirks and are more suited for maintaining "life lists" and less
scientific observations and there is probably room for several in the market
- would be nice if they also sent data to the Atlas of course.

I think we lack a pager or SMS system for alerting birders as they have in
some countries - given the low density of birders and the lack of decent
communication in maybe 90% of our surface area this is not surprising. I
think Simon Mustoe was proposing such a system - will be interesting to see
what happens there.

I agree it is fragmented but it seems to work for most people. One could
argue that in an "ideal" world there would be one system run by a major
organisation that did everything - equally one could argue that innovation
tends to come more from individuals with an idea and the passion and skills
to develop it.


2010/1/28 Stephen Ambrose <>

> Luke,
>
> Can you elaborate on what you mean by your statement that "the current
> birding websites are not meeting the demands of the modern birder"?
>
> I agree that no single forum, email list or website caters for all the
> needs
> of every birder. However, there are a broad range of internet sites
> available and, collectively, I think they provide a comprehensive service.
> I'm happy for you to point out the error of my remark if you think I'm
> wrong.
>
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
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