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Re: Stereo Mic Setups

Subject: Re: Stereo Mic Setups
From: "Jim Mooney" jmooney776
Date: Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:20 pm ((PST))
Thank you Gregory!  I will look in to these and see about making up a rig a=
nd trying things out.

Happy New Year!

Jim



> On Dec 29, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Gregory O'Drobinak =
t [naturerecordists] <> wrote:
>
>
> Oops.
>
> I just checked the Primo site and actually one should use the EM182 cardi=
od capsules instead of the EM 184s.
> 
> The EM182s have a much better S/N ratio; their self noise is spec'd at 16=
 dBA.
>
>
> Ciao,
> Gregory
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 28, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Gregory O'Drobinak =
t <> [naturerecordists] <=
ahoogroups.com <>> wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>> Actually, the EM172 capsules are omni.
>>
>> One needs to use the EM184 capsules to get a cardiod pattern and that is=
 required to  do ORTF.  Don't use the the EM172s for that purpose.
>>
>> That being said, there are ways to record with spaced omni capsules (jus=
t separated in the air), but although the result may be useful, it will sou=
nd differently than ORTF.
>>
>> Make some recordings and experiment. Tune things until it sounds good to=
 your own ears.
>>
>>
>> Good luck to you!
>>
>> - Gregory
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 9:02 PM,  <=
.com> [naturerecordists] < <naturere=
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> If you keep the spacing between the capsules, and the angle, according =
to ORTF specs, it will work. You could fix the capsules on a =BC inch wide =
strip of wood and get going? (EM 172s are cardioid, right? ORTF is only for=
 cardioid microphones.
>>>
>>> umashankar
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>> From: Jim Mooney  <> [nature=
recordists]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:28 AM
>>> To:  <=
ps.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Stereo Mic Setups
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am very new to recording so forgive me if this is old territory or th=
ere is a fundamental flaw, but has anyone tried a mini ORTF setup using EM1=
72 capsules?  Rudimentary drawing at link below:
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/p/QBYJP7 <https://flic.kr/p/QBYJP7>
>>>
>>> I would think it would be compact and portable and could be mounted on =
a tabletop style tripod or a a stake of some kind.  Interested to hear thou=
ghts on this, be gentle I=92m a newbie ;-P
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 2:15 AM, vickipowys  <mail=
to:> [naturerecordists] <=
ups.com <>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>> Hello Klas & Anthor,
>>>
>>> My website (www.caperteebirder.com <http://www.caperteebirder.com/>) st=
ill has the comparison of DIY SASS with Telinga SSM.  Both rigs give a good=
 stereo image, the SASS has a bit wider image.  The SSM would certainly fit=
 more easily into a suitcase for travelling, than the SASS.
>>>
>>> I am progressively updating my website with new links to SoundCloud tra=
cks, and I've just updated the SSM-SASS page.  I have not been able to acce=
ss SoundCloud for some years due to incredibly slow internet.  New internet=
 dish has speeded me up again so I can now do more audio stuff online :-)
>>>
>>> Anthor, I found the SSM windshields would need extra shielding if there=
 was a lot of wind, a home made cage of some sort might fix that.  The SSM =
rig uses minijacks.
>>>
>>> One test I don't think I've ever done is to compare "tree-ears" to SASS=
 or SSM.  I think the latter two would be more directional and give a littl=
e more boost to the signal.
>>>
>>> Vicki Powys
>>> Australia
>>>
>>> On 28/12/2016, at 5:37 AM, Arn=FE=F3r Helgason =
is <> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, Klas. How much do you charge for this Telinga SSM? And what type=
 of connections are used - minijack or XLR?What kind of setup would you rec=
ommend in an environment where there is almost always some wind?  Best rega=
rds, Arnthor
>>> =DEann 27.12.2016 17:12, skrifa=F0i Klas  <tel=
> [naturerecordists]:
>>> Vicky has (had?) a nice site comparing the SASS vs the Telinga SSM. I a=
m
>>> going to make some ten pairs of them and they are easier to travel with=
.
>>> Klas
>>>
>>> On 2016-12-24 13:34, vickipowys  <vicki=
>
>>> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>>> > The talk of tree-ears reminded me - my ultra lightweight rig is a set
>>> > of stereo clip-ons mics from Klas at Telinga (they are doubles of
>>> > EM172), which I have clipped on to a lightweight headphone frame
>>> > (minus the headphones), and wear on my head. Or you can tie it to a
>>> > tree, a backpack, rock, fencepost whatever.
>>> >
>>> > Vicki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>






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