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Date: Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:15 pm ((PST))
Oops.
I just checked the Primo site and actually one should use the EM182 cardiod=
capsules instead of the EM 184s.
The EM182s have a much better S/N ratio; their self noise is spec'd at 16 d=
BA.
Ciao,
Gregory
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 28, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Gregory O'Drobinak =
t [naturerecordists] <> wrote:
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> Actually, the EM172 capsules are omni.
>
> One needs to use the EM184 capsules to get a cardiod pattern and that is =
required to do ORTF. Don't use the the EM172s for that purpose.
>
> That being said, there are ways to record with spaced omni capsules (just=
separated in the air), but although the result may be useful, it will soun=
d differently than ORTF.
>
> Make some recordings and experiment. Tune things until it sounds good to =
your own ears.
>
>
> Good luck to you!
>
> - Gregory
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 9:02 PM, [naturerecordists] <nat=
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you keep the spacing between the capsules, and the angle, according t=
o ORTF specs, it will work. You could fix the capsules on a =BC inch wide s=
trip of wood and get going? (EM 172s are cardioid, right? ORTF is only for =
cardioid microphones.
>>
>> umashankar
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Jim Mooney [naturerecordists]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:28 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Stereo Mic Setups
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am very new to recording so forgive me if this is old territory or the=
re is a fundamental flaw, but has anyone tried a mini ORTF setup using EM17=
2 capsules? Rudimentary drawing at link below:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/QBYJP7
>>
>> I would think it would be compact and portable and could be mounted on a=
tabletop style tripod or a a stake of some kind. Interested to hear thoug=
hts on this, be gentle I=92m a newbie ;-P
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2016, at 2:15 AM, vickipowys [natur=
erecordists] <> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Klas & Anthor,
>>
>> My website (www.caperteebirder.com) still has the comparison of DIY SASS=
with Telinga SSM. Both rigs give a good stereo image, the SASS has a bit =
wider image. The SSM would certainly fit more easily into a suitcase for t=
ravelling, than the SASS.
>>
>> I am progressively updating my website with new links to SoundCloud trac=
ks, and I've just updated the SSM-SASS page. I have not been able to acces=
s SoundCloud for some years due to incredibly slow internet. New internet =
dish has speeded me up again so I can now do more audio stuff online :-)
>>
>> Anthor, I found the SSM windshields would need extra shielding if there =
was a lot of wind, a home made cage of some sort might fix that. The SSM r=
ig uses minijacks.
>>
>> One test I don't think I've ever done is to compare "tree-ears" to SASS =
or SSM. I think the latter two would be more directional and give a little=
more boost to the signal.
>>
>> Vicki Powys
>> Australia
>>
>> On 28/12/2016, at 5:37 AM, Arn=FE=F3r Helgason =
s [naturerecordists] wrote:
>>
>> Hello, Klas. How much do you charge for this Telinga SSM? And what type =
of connections are used - minijack or XLR?What kind of setup would you reco=
mmend in an environment where there is almost always some wind? Best regar=
ds, Arnthor
>> =DEann 27.12.2016 17:12, skrifa=F0i Klas [naturerecor=
dists]:
>> Vicky has (had?) a nice site comparing the SASS vs the Telinga SSM. I am=
>> going to make some ten pairs of them and they are easier to travel with.
>> Klas
>>
>> On 2016-12-24 13:34, vickipowys
>> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>> > The talk of tree-ears reminded me - my ultra lightweight rig is a set
>> > of stereo clip-ons mics from Klas at Telinga (they are doubles of
>> > EM172), which I have clipped on to a lightweight headphone frame
>> > (minus the headphones), and wear on my head. Or you can tie it to a
>> > tree, a backpack, rock, fencepost whatever.
>> >
>> > Vicki
>>
>>
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