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Subject: Re: better recorder or better microphone-dilemma
From: "Fernando Gonzalez Garcia" o=
reophasito
Date: Wed Oct 2, 2013 12:29 pm ((PDT))

Yes, that  gear is very good. Don=C2=B4t forget the cable, XLR fame to 1/4 =
inich (3.5 mm).

M. en C. Fernando Gonz=C3=A1lez-Garc=C3=ADa
Red de Biologia y Conservacion de Vertebrados
Biblioteca de Sonidos de las Aves de Mexico (BISAM)
Km. 2.5 Carretera Antigua a Coatepec, No. 351
Congregaci=C3=B3n El Haya
Xalapa, Veracruz, Mexico
91070
Universidad de Alicante, Espa=C3=B1a.
Centro Iberoamericano de la Biodiversidad (Cibio)
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From: Jacek Malanka 
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Sent: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:17:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Re: [Nature Recordists] RE: better recorder or better micropho=
ne-dilemma








thank U. Your analysis is very clear and logical. I decide to buy a better =
microphone and cheaper recorder without xlr - sennheiser me67/k6 with sony =
pcm m10. U think this set is ok?




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Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [Nature Recordists] RE: better recorder or better micropho=
ne-dilemma






 To me, the logic seems to be either:
A.  Buy a good XLR capable recorder and get by with a lesser microphone now=

B.  Buy a good microphone and get by with a lesser recorder for now

If you go with the first option, you could get your Sennheiser ME67/K6 and =
get by with an Olympus LS recorder for now.  When you are ready, you could =
move up to a quieter XLR capable recorder.  (I suggested the Tascam as a re=
corder roughly equivalent to the Olympus but with XLR capability).

If you go with the second option and buy the Marantz, you could get by with=
 a less expensive microphone for now (although if you go too cheap on mics =
the quality drops off fast!) and upgrade the microphone when you can.

But I don't see the point in buying a more expensive non-XLR recorder now. =
 If you do that you are guaranteeing you will have to replace both the reco=
rder and the mic.

Buy the cheaper recorder and learn the craft.  Like with camera gear, good =
field craft trumps good gear.  You will be able to get some outstanding rec=
ordings of owls and other birds with an Olympus LS-12 or similar recorder. =



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Hi,thank U. I'm thinking about self noise of recorder also. I've heared abo=
ut sony pcm m 10 can be compared with high end recorders but don't have xlr=
.
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From:  <>;
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Subject: [Nature Recordists] RE: better recorder or better microphone-dilem=
ma
Sent: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 11:24:32 PM







Jacek,

I might offer another suggestion that could meet all of your needs now and =
give you room to step up later.  I recently purchased a Tascam DR-40 record=
er based on some favorable reviews I had read.  My previous recorders were =
an Olympus LS-10 and Olympus LS-11 but I wanted to move up to an phantom po=
wer XLR connection without breaking the bank.  I have used all three of the=
se recorders with their built in mics and with a Sennheiser ME66/K6 combo. =


I have found the Tascam DR-40 to be a little bit quieter than the Olympus. =
 I am no audiophile, certainly, but when I record with both recorders side =
by side (built in mics) I generally don't see a huge difference in sound qu=
ality and if I observe any difference at all I think the Tascam gives me cl=
eaner, quieter audio than the Olympus LS-11.

You might ask yourself if you really need the extra reach of the ME67 over =
the ME66.   For birds that are more distant, you might be happier with a pa=
rabolic microphone setup instead of a shotgun anyway.  I have recorded quit=
e a few owls with the ME 66..

So for a little bit more than the LS-12, you could buy a Tascam DR-40 and s=
till buy the ME67/K6 combo.  So with the Tascam and the ME combo you would =
have phantom powered XLR connected microphone capability and get the benefi=
t of having a 4 channel recorder.   You could also use non-phantom powered =
microphones (with XLR jacks) if needed.

Then you could "move up" later by either getting new mics or a new recorder=
 without having to worry about getting new cables, phantom power, etc.. =


Certainly worth a look?   I happened to get my Tascam DR-40 on sale for $17=
3 so look around if you are investigating.

Chris



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Hi,
What do you think is better - buy marantz pmd 661 + rode ntg-2 or buy cheap=
er recorder like olympus LS-12 or sony PCM 10 but with Sennheiser K6/ME67. =
Which solution will give me better sound quality? I might add that I am mos=
t interested in recording owls. In first line owls and then other birds. I =
think the first solution is better because of xlr (in the future I could ch=
ange the microphone) , but if you have other experiences, suggestions and t=
ips then correct me.
Jacek

















"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.



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