Afraid you'll need to conjure up Cage for an answer to that one. I'm
only channeling him.
Bernie
On Sep 6, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
> I don't really get all this philosophical stuff, so maybe I
> shouldn't comment, but recordings don't sound paralysed and dead to
> me, not even bad ones, let alone "a vision of paralysis and death".
> Definitely not the latter - the moment might have gone, but the
> creatures making the sounds weren't dead at the time. I don't know
> what "speaks to a vision ..." means. Can someone explain?
>
> I suppose they're paralysed in the sense of never changing, and
> they're certainly not live, even if they might sound like they are,
> but so what if no one's saying they are?
>
> Peter Shute
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> On Behalf Of Tony Whitehead
>> Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012 1:54 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] RE: Cage 100
>>
>> Is it attempts to present moments that are past - "dead" - in a
>> fixed
>> manner through a recording that can be repaeted continually without
>> change
>> - "paralyised" - that Cage refers to in that intriguing last
>> sentence?
>> If
>> so, I think I might have some sympathy with that view.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Bernie Krause
>> <>wrote:
>>
>>> John Cage had views on many issues re sound, music, and our acoustic
>>> world. For instance, his take on natural sound recording: In 1989,
>>> at
>>> a soundscape conference hosted by Skywalker Sound (LucasFilm), Cage
>>> was asked for his impressions of those creating "nature" sound
>>> albums
>>> who claim to be "purists," meaning they assert that they don't edit.
>>> Cage thought for a moment, then responded tersely and rather
>>> disparagingly, "Found art," he sniffed. "That's because all true
>>> artists know that germane to their respective crafts is
>>> transformation: the inspired conversion of sound or image from one
>>> medium to another, or ideas from mind to page -- ultimate
>>> expressions
>>> far more resounding than the sources from which they spring. It is
>>> through the process of insurgency that art in any medium obliges
>>> insight into the numinous and improbable. Transformation is the
>>> key to
>>> life and [its expression through] art, the real mystery of creative
>>> nature. Attempts to replicate or capture aspects of the natural
>>> world
>>> without amendment speak clearly to a vision of paralysis and death."
>>>
>>> Bernie Krause
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Michael Dalton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy!
>>>>
>>>> Just a short note about John Cage.
>>>>
>>>> Nearly fifty (wow, fifty!) years ago, John Cage presented a program
>>>> at the college I attended in the upstate hills of New York. Several
>>>> people walked out. I listened as he began with a script and then
>>>> started a series of recordings on several tape recorders. It was an
>>>> existential program, which like many works of art, took a while to
>>>> digest.
>>>>
>>>> While I was not an arts student, the experimental approach was
>>>> appreciated by this science student. I continue to experiment with
>>>> sound.
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who recognize my signature as well as others, that
>>>> means listening to recordings of spontaneous speech by talking
>>>> birds. Following Cage's lead, I have discovered meaning in many
>>>> recordings, because, believe it or not, many parrots are learning
>>>> language. Several years ago, I would be laughed off the stage.
>>>> Thanks to pioneers like Cage, I have been able to be heard at
>>>> scientific and general "art" gatherings to understand the mind of
>>>> another species through recorded speech. Thank you Professor Cage!
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> Florida
>>>> http://www.parrotspeech.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cage 100
>>>> Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
>>>> "Mark" seoulgypsy
>>>> Fowarding this fantastic work by Lawrence Johnson
>>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Happy hundredth birthday, John Cage. Congratulations to all who
>>>> knew
>>>> and/or learned from this wonderful man.
>>>>
>>>> To commemorate this day, I wrote some short texts. I hope it's okay
>>>> to share one with you-- a verbal "passacaglia"-- and provide a link
>>>> to the others.
>>>>
>>>> =3DLawrence Johnson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>>>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>>>> Krause.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause.
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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