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Subject: Re: Cage 100
From: "Peter Shute" pshute2
Date: Thu Sep 6, 2012 2:14 pm ((PDT))
I don't really get all this philosophical stuff, so maybe I shouldn't comme=
nt, but recordings don't sound paralysed and dead to me, not even bad ones,=
 let alone "a vision of paralysis and death". Definitely not the latter - t=
he moment might have gone, but the creatures making the sounds weren't dead=
 at the time. I don't know what "speaks to a vision ..." means. Can someone=
 explain?

I suppose they're paralysed in the sense of never changing, and they're cer=
tainly not live, even if they might sound like they are, but so what if no =
one's saying they are?

Peter Shute

>-----Original Message-----
>From: 
> On Behalf Of Tony Whitehead
>Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012 1:54 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] RE: Cage 100
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>Is it attempts to present moments that are past -  "dead" - in a fixed
>manner through a recording that can be repaeted continually without
>change
>- "paralyised" - that Cage refers to in that intriguing last sentence?
>If
>so, I think I might have some sympathy with that view.
>
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>On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Bernie Krause
><>wrote:
>
>> John Cage had views on many issues re sound, music, and our acoustic
>> world. For instance, his take on natural sound recording: In 1989, at
>> a soundscape conference hosted by Skywalker Sound (LucasFilm), Cage
>> was asked for his impressions of those creating "nature" sound albums
>> who claim to be "purists," meaning they assert that they don't edit.
>> Cage thought for a moment, then responded tersely and rather
>> disparagingly, "Found art," he sniffed. "That's because all true
>> artists know that germane to their respective crafts is
>> transformation: the inspired conversion of sound or image from one
>> medium to another, or ideas from mind to page -- ultimate expressions
>> far more resounding than the sources from which they spring. It is
>> through the process of insurgency that art in any medium obliges
>> insight into the numinous and improbable. Transformation is the key to
>> life and [its expression through] art, the real mystery of creative
>> nature. Attempts to replicate or capture aspects of the natural world
>> without amendment speak clearly to a vision of paralysis and death."
>>
>> Bernie Krause
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>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Michael Dalton wrote:
>>
>> > Howdy!
>> >
>> > Just a short note about John Cage.
>> >
>> > Nearly fifty (wow, fifty!) years ago, John Cage presented a program
>> > at the college I attended in the upstate hills of New York. Several
>> > people walked out. I listened as he began with a script and then
>> > started a series of recordings on several tape recorders. It was an
>> > existential program, which like many works of art, took a while to
>> > digest.
>> >
>> > While I was not an arts student, the experimental approach was
>> > appreciated by this science student. I continue to experiment with
>> > sound.
>> >
>> > For those of you who recognize my signature as well as others, that
>> > means listening to recordings of spontaneous speech by talking
>> > birds. Following Cage's lead, I have discovered meaning in many
>> > recordings, because, believe it or not, many parrots are learning
>> > language. Several years ago, I would be laughed off the stage.
>> > Thanks to pioneers like Cage, I have been able to be heard at
>> > scientific and general "art" gatherings to understand the mind of
>> > another species through recorded speech. Thank you Professor Cage!
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > Florida
>> > http://www.parrotspeech.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cage 100
>> > Wed Sep 5, 2012 5:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
>> > "Mark" seoulgypsy
>> > Fowarding this fantastic work by Lawrence Johnson
>> >
>> > Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> > Happy hundredth birthday, John Cage. Congratulations to all who knew
>> > and/or learned from this wonderful man.
>> >
>> > To commemorate this day, I wrote some short texts. I hope it's okay
>> > to share one with you-- a verbal "passacaglia"-- and provide a link
>> > to the others.
>> >
>> > =3DLawrence Johnson
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>> > Krause.
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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>> >
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>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>Krause.
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>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>Krause.
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