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Re: Re: Need help with Sound Devices 722!

Subject: Re: Re: Need help with Sound Devices 722!
From: Ed Anson <>
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 19:18:23 -0400
Natalie,

That's close. But I would be inclined to set the HP monitoring/playback
to A,B instead of 1,2. [Though I'm not quite sure that it makes a real
difference in this case.]

Ed


On Oct 1, 2005, at 7:06 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:

> Tim/Ed,
>
>  So, if I want to record, monitor and playback in stereo (which will
>  still allow me to get back to MS again later), then I should set:
>
>  Input 1,2:Linking,MS: Linked 1/2 and MS
>
>  HP:Favourite Mode: inputs 1,2 (for monitoring in stereo while
> recording)
>
>  HP:Playback Mode: inputs 1,2 (for listening to playback in stereo)
>
>
>  Right?
>
>  Thanks, Natalie :)
>
>  --- In  Tim Nielsen <> wrote:
>  > Ah. You're doing MS.
>  >
>  > I think I know what's happening. If you have engaged the MS in the=A0
>  > menu, meaning that you're recording the MS 'through' the matrix=A0
>  > circuit, then you do NOT want to also decode the headphone feed=A0
>  > through MS. The monitoring of MS in the headphones is only if
> you're=A0
>  > recording the two mics seperately to each track, for processing
> later.
>  >
>  > If however, you have it turned off, and you want to 'monitor'
> through=A0
>  > MS, then do as you're doing. But when recording, select 1,2 (MS)
> This=A0
>  > take the inputs 1 and 2, send them through MS for headphone
> monitoring.
>  >
>  > If you're sending the signal through the MS twice, because you've
> set=A0
>  > it in the input menu, AND in the headphone, then it's possible to
> do=A0
>  > weird things like hearing it only in one channel.
>  >
>  > Also, I think you can't select A,B while recording because A,B
> might=A0
>  > only be a playback mode. Either that, or you have to add it to your=A0
>  > list of 'headphone favorites'. You do this in the menus. You can=A0
>  > select as many of the headphone signals as you want, or erase the=A0
>  > ones you don't use. That way it'll appear on the little knob on the=A0
>  > right. I can't rememer which menu # it is, but I think it's called=A0
>  > 'HP Favorites'.
>  >
>  > Tim
>  >
>  > On Oct 1, 2005, at 1:18 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:
>  >
>  > > Thank you for helping!
>  > >
>  > > I understand what you are saying, i think, but to complicate
> things, I
>  > > am using 1 cardioid mic and 1 figure 8 mic, so I need to choose
> the MS
>  > > options (from what I understand).
>  > >
>  > > I chose routing: Channel 1 (cardioid) to A
>  > >=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Channel 2 (figure=
 8) to B
>  > >
>  > > For monitoring with HP, I chose: monitor "A,B (MS)"
>  > > -but when i am monitoring, the LCD icon won't let me choose "AB
> MS",
>  > > only plain "A,B"
>  > >
>  > > For playback, I chose: track A,B (MS)
>  > > - and the LCD let's me play it in "AB MS"
>  > >
>  > > I still get the playback in the left headphone only.
>  > >
>  > > I don't understand what I'm doing wrong...
>  > >
>  > > Natalie :)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --- In  Tim Nielsen <>
> wrote:
>  > > > On the 722, I think there are two different modes for
> headphone, one
>  > > > for recording, and one for playback. You'll see next to the=A0
>  > > headphone
>  > > > symbol on the unit on the display, it will display what you are
>  > > > hearing in the headphones. The selector knob on the right side=A0
>  > > should
>  > > > cycle through the available headphone presets, when recording,
>  > > > depending on the mode you're recording in, you'll probably want=A0
>  > > it in
>  > > > 1,2 mode, where it puts input 1 on the left, and 2 on the right.
>  > > >
>  > > > On playback, it should be I think A,B where track A is on the
> left
>  > > > and B on the right? If it's saying just 1 or A, then you're only
>  > > > hearing one track.
>  > > >
>  > > > See if that helps. I know the manual explains it pretty well
> too.
>  > > > There are basically 'headphone favorites' that you can store for
>  > > > recording and playback. It's in the menu, and you can store
> which
>  > > > headphones modes you want to be active on the right side knob.
>  > > >
>  > > > But actually what is probably happening is that your mic input
> is
>  > > > only going to channel 1, and while recording, you're listening
> to
>  > > > channel 1 (the headphones will play it as mono). On playback,
> it's
>  > > > probably set to play back A,B, and since there is no second
> channel,
>  > > > you'll hear only in the left.
>  > > >
>  > > > Make sure you understand the mic input routing of the 722.=A0
>  > > Basically,
>  > > > it's a square, with inputs 1 and 2 on top, and record tracks A
> and B
>  > > > on the bottom. So you link incoming track 1 to record track A,
> input
>  > > > track 2 to track B. It's possible to input track 1 to A AND B,
> or I
>  > > > think both inputs 1 and 2 to A AND B, so make sure you're
> assign=A0
>  > > them
>  > > > correctly for your mics.
>  > > >
>  > > > It bit me once, somehow input 2 got turned off, so I was only
>  > > > recording mono.
>  > > >
>  > > > Tim
>  > > >
>  > > > On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:30 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > Hi there,
>  > > > > I just bought a 722, which I plan on using in Hawaii in 3
> weeks to
>  > > > > record biophony for a scientific study of biodiversity.=A0 I am=
=A0
>  > > used to
>  > > > > working with plants, so I don't know much about this stuff.
> Help!
>  > > > >
>  > > > > I'm trying to figure out why when I am recording, I can hear=A0
>  > > sounds in
>  > > > > both headphones, but then when I playback my recording, I
> only get
>  > > > > sound out of the left headphone...
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Does anyone have the patience to help me out?
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Thanks.
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > "Microphones are not ears,
>  > > > > Loudspeakers are not birds,
>  > > > > A listening room is not nature."
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