Hi Ed,
Thank you, that REALLY helped! Now I can hear out of both headphones
on the playback :)
One more question about this though: I have been recording in 1/2
linked MS. So, if I record AB (and not MS), can I still get back the
encoded MS signal later if I want it? Or am I stuck with Stereo only
after this?
Thanks,
Natalie :)
--- In Ed Anson <> wrote:
> Natalie,
>
> Setting up and monitoring M/S recording is one of a few tricky things
> in the 722. It's easy to get it wrong in subtle ways.
>
> One thing you didn't mention: How is your input linking set up? You'll
> get a different result if you set up unlinked, linked 1/2, or linked
> 1/2 MS. Any of those settings can be used for M/S recording, but you
> need to set other things up differently, and work differently in post.
>
> The simplest to work with is often the last (linked 1/2 MS), as it
> performs the conversion to L/R stereo before recording. In this case,
> you want to monitor A,B (not MS) both for recording and playback. [Note
> that in this mode, the top gain knob controls the record level and the
> bottom knob controls stereo width. The latter should normally be set to
> 12 o'clock unless you want special effects.]
>
> As an aside: If you record as I suggested, you will have L/R stereo on
> your tracks, so listening with MS selected is not appropriate. In fact,
> doing so could result in the symptom you noticed if the tracks are
> sufficiently correlated (as would happen if you recorded a single sound
> source near center).
>
> I hope this helps, and you have much happy recording.
>
> Ed
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2005, at 4:18 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:
>
> > Thank you for helping!
> >
> > I understand what you are saying, i think, but to complicate
things, I
> > am using 1 cardioid mic and 1 figure 8 mic, so I need to choose
the MS
> > options (from what I understand).
> >
> > I chose routing: Channel 1 (cardioid) to A
> > =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 Chann=
el 2 (figure 8) to B
> >
> > For monitoring with HP, I chose: monitor "A,B (MS)"
> > -but when i am monitoring, the LCD icon won't let me choose "AB MS",
> > only plain "A,B"
> >
> > For playback, I chose: track A,B
(MS)=C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2=
=C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2 =C2
> > - and the LCD let's me play it in "AB MS"
> >
> > I still get the playback in the left headphone only.
> >
> > I don't understand what I'm doing wrong...
> >
> > Natalie :)
> >
> >
> > --- In Tim Nielsen <>
wrote:
> > > On the 722, I think there are two different modes for headphone,
> > one=C2
> > > for recording, and one for playback. You'll see next to the
> > headphone=C2
> > > symbol on the unit on the display, it will display what you are=C2
> > > hearing in the headphones. The selector knob on the right side
> > should=C2
> > > cycle through the available headphone presets, when recording,=C2
> > > depending on the mode you're recording in, you'll probably want it
> > in=C2
> > > 1,2 mode, where it puts input 1 on the left, and 2 on the right.
> > >
> > > On playback, it should be I think A,B where track A is on the
left=C2
> > > and B on the right? If it's saying just 1 or A, then you're only=C2=
> > > hearing one track.
> > >
> > > See if that helps. I know the manual explains it pretty well too.=C2=
> > > There are basically 'headphone favorites' that you can store for=C2=
> > > recording and playback. It's in the menu, and you can store which=C2=
> > > headphones modes you want to be active on the right side knob.
> > >
> > > But actually what is probably happening is that your mic input is=C2=
> > > only going to channel 1, and while recording, you're listening to=C2=
> > > channel 1 (the headphones will play it as mono). On playback,
it's=C2
> > > probably set to play back A,B, and since there is no second
> > channel,=C2
> > > you'll hear only in the left.
> > >
> > > Make sure you understand the mic input routing of the 722.
> > Basically,=C2
> > > it's a square, with inputs 1 and 2 on top, and record tracks A and
> > B=C2
> > > on the bottom. So you link incoming track 1 to record track A,
> > input=C2
> > > track 2 to track B. It's possible to input track 1 to A AND B,
or I=C2
> > > think both inputs 1 and 2 to A AND B, so make sure you're assign
> > them=C2
> > > correctly for your mics.
> > >
> > > It bit me once, somehow input 2 got turned off, so I was only=C2
> > > recording mono.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On Oct 1, 2005, at 12:30 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi there,
> > > > I just bought a 722, which I plan on using in Hawaii in 3
weeks to
> > > > record biophony for a scientific study of biodiversity.=C2 I am
> > used to
> > > > working with plants, so I don't know much about this stuff. Help!
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to figure out why when I am recording, I can hear
> > sounds in
> > > > both headphones, but then when I playback my recording, I
only get
> > > > sound out of the left headphone...
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have the patience to help me out?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Microphones are not ears,
> > > > Loudspeakers are not birds,
> > > > A listening room is not nature."
> > > > Klas Strandberg
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
> >
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> > Loudspeakers are not birds,
> > A listening room is not nature."
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> >
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