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Re: ATRAC don't get no respect

Subject: Re: ATRAC don't get no respect
From: "Raimund Specht" <>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:36:11 -0000
--- In  "evertveldhuis" 
<> wrote:
> I suggest that we keep this technical discussion off list, the 
> majority of us already knows that MD recorders are great, it is 
hard 
> to convince me or others if you compare it by NOT using the device 
in 
> your so called test. 
> THAT my friend is VERY unworthy for a scienctist.
> 
> Besides, I do not think our moderator will be too happy seeing 
this 
> discussion that has already been dealt with in the past over and 
> aover again...
> 
> Perhaps it will be of much more interest to provide some kind of 
> fieldjournal ; tell of how a recording was made, and let the 
> recording be heard.
> I would love to get some small course in how to record outdoors.
> Anyone interested in sharing their experiences in the field?
> 
> Regards, Evert
> (This is not meant as a personal attack, it's just that this list 
is 
> for nature recordist, not for high tech lab personel that spend 
all 
> their days indoors...)

Evert,

I agree, that we should concentrate our interest more on field 
recording. This is what I tried in some of my previous postings. 
Hower, if someone states very doubtful theories, I thought it would 
be interesting to some of the members of this group to see a 
different opinion. I repeat it again and again : MiniDisk 
recororders are very useful for field recordings and the audio 
quality for listening purposes is great. But it is not suited for in-
depth analysis (this is what Walt mentioned).

Even if you would like to hide such kind of (sectret?) information, 
I just added another spectrogram example to the website, that shows 
a very 'poor' 8 bit soundfile. You will see, that even that junk 
file provides a better spectrographic representaation than the 16 
bit MP3 file!!!

http://www.avisoft-saslab.com/compression/compression.htm


I' very sorry, that I did not use ATRAC for this test. However, I do 
not have such a device at the moment. ATRAC and MP3 are very 
simlilar. Perhaps, MP3 is a little bit more advanced. I used the 
same compression factor of 5:1. Therefore, the effect should be 
comparable to ATRAC. Of course, ATRAC will peobably show a slightly 
different behavior. But you have the ability to run your own test on 
your own MiniDisk recorder with the .wav file I supplied. I would be 
happy to add your results to this website.

Regards,
Raimund



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