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Re: ATRAC don't get no respect

Subject: Re: ATRAC don't get no respect
From: Dan Dugan <>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 12:21:21 -0700
Raimund Specht, you posted:

>Walt, I have just prepared a quick comparison of both uncompressed
>and compressed digital audio as you suggested:
>
>http://www.avisoft-saslab.com/compression/compression.htm

Thank you, Raimund, this is a very nice illustration of what's going 
on in a typical good psychoacoustic data reduction scheme. Could you 
add the color/level scale to your spectrogram illustrations?

>I guess, that you will argue, that these tests were made with MP3
>and not with the latest ATRAC system.

You're using a similar data compression ratio, and MP3 is designed 
with similar principles to ATRAC, so I thank you for composing a very 
helpful educational page. If I were to ATRAC process and unprocess 
your test file, without analog conversions, would you be willing to 
plot and post those results too?

>However, I will NOT buy one of
>these expensive MiniDisk machines. The underlaying principles are
>always the same. The improvements may lead to better listening
>pleasure, but the loss of data will remain.

What compromises you accept in exchange for economy and portability 
are always up for discussion, and ultimately a personal choice. I get 
fabulous, publishable recordings of both music and nature on a cheap 
Sharp portable MD! I agree with Walt that the degradations of "lossy 
compression" recording are almost always insignificant for both 
personal and scientific uses, and your excellent analysis of MP3 
doesn't change that opinion. Thank you for making the discussion more 
objective.

-Dan Dugan


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