--- In "j.chitte" <> wrote:
> This is getting very messy. Since 'find' is one of the tools
provided
> by busybox it appears that this is another significant breakage in
> what TS are still providing as supplied software.
>
> Worse , if anyone is daft enough to buy the "development kit" they
> actually pay money for this broken unmaintained release.
>
> I really should not need to set up a complete cross-compiler
> development system to replace what should be provided in a working
> state.
>
> One of the main reasons I chose a TS product was it was claimed to
> have a working mini linux out of the box and a full debian image
> suitable for installing on a USB device.
>
> Since the supplied busybox is too broken to even rebuild it's own
> update I'll now have to find an arm binary to get out of this
chicken
> and egg situation.
>
> "Fully embrasing linux" seems to mean letting this list do most of
> the product support for them.
>
We refuse in all but extreme cases to update software shipping on
released products. Indeed-- at one point several years ago we
updated busybox and immediately had to un-update it since it had
fixed some known bugs, but introduced new ones. This fact about TS
may upset some, but we have people shipping products in the field and
they'd be even more upset if we started changing. We're not about to
upset all these companies just so a new featured version of awk and
find can be provided to Linux novices who find it prohibitively
difficult to recompile from source code.
> Anyone thinking of buying a TS product should realise they are going
> to have to get head long into embedded system development. They do
> not work out of the box as advertised.
As this is an embedded product designed for development, it should be
no surprise that you have to "get head long into embedded system
development", as you say. We make no illusion that developing with
Linux is easy and annoyance free. Its harder for some than others.
The versions of Linux preloaded on our boards is intended as a demo.
We are a small company with limited resources and I can't have design
engineers concerned with keeping the features of various software
utilities they didn't write up to date on a version of Linux that we
really cannot change now anyway. Trying to keep updated with open
source is a black hole that would require us to either raise prices
as our product line grows or start discontinuing older products. Not
only would that be a stupid business move, it would alienate a large
class of like-minded embedded developers that do not subscribe to the
PC and consumer electronics industry mindset of perpetual update and
redesign.
//Jesse Off
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