Thanks, everyone. It looks like the consensus is =93The best way to remove =
noise is with your feet,=94 i.e. try and go somewhere quiet to record. I wa=
s lucky enough to get a chance to go out this morning with a respected loca=
l recordist and he showed me a wonderful recording spot not too far away fr=
om where I live that is relatively quiet if you get there early enough (whi=
ch unfortunately meant getting up at 3:30 this morning!). I put a short une=
dited recording of the dawn chorus here: https://soundcloud.com/jcharleshol=
t/long-canyon
Nick, I didn=92t realize the price listed at micbooster.com included shippi=
ng to the U.S. That=92s very reasonable, and as soon as I can sell my BSM-9=
s on eBay I plan to order a matched pair. I=92m sure some type of array is =
in my not-too-distant future as well. Thankfully my wife is very patient. ;=
)
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:55 AM, ROSS HALE [naturerecor=
dists] <> wrote:
>
>
> Charles,
>
> '...Better to make good recordings than spend all your time fixing bad on=
es....'
>
> We are talking a lot of time, with an inevitably compromised result at th=
e end of it...why bother?
>
> EM172's in a stereo array along the lines of Rob Danielson's work, plugge=
d into a Sony M10 or similar, will produce outstanding results.
>
> Info here: diystereoboundarymics.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/danielson-pbmb2-m=
edium-boundary-array.html?utm_source=3DBP_recent <http://diystereoboundarym=
ics.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/danielson-pbmb2-medium-boundary-array.html?utm_s=
ource=3DBP_recent>
>
> Best wishes,
> Ross
>
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> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] MM-BSM-9
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>
>
> "I think if I spend any more money at this point it'll be on a copy of Iz=
otope RX4. "
>
> Charles, if you want to play with noise reduction (heresy on this list!),=
you might best start by looking through the archives of this group. A few=
years ago, there was a post with a link to a legal and free copy of Adobe =
Audition 3.0. Hopefully, it still might work or another link may exist if y=
ou search for it. You might also look at Audacity (I haven't tried it.)
>
> The noise reduction tools in AA3 are very powerful and for the noise we'r=
e talking about, can be made to rival what you can do in RX or in SpectraLa=
yers from Sony, although I confess I'm not fond of the workflow. The nicest=
part of RX (IMO), is the Deconstruct module and you'll have to buy the Adv=
anced version to get it ($$$). Also, you get caught up in a rather expensiv=
e and sometimes senseless 'upgrade' scheme.
>
> Having been down this road (I did have other justifications for buying RX=
& SL), I'd strongly suggest you spend the cash on better mics and experime=
nts with stereo arrays first. For the price of RX Advanced, you could get t=
he EM172's, play with arrays, pay for the fuel to get to a quiet-ish place =
and learn some really useful stuff. --Better to make good recordings than =
spend all your time fixing bad ones.
>
> The demo videos for these products show them easily doing wonderful thing=
s on a 15 second clip. Try doing 30 - 90 minute files assuming you want to =
check every second for leftover artifacts --at every stage. You'll get over=
your infatuation pretty quickly.
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