The most simple situation is not simple. Every recording has the factors of=
natural ambient noise level, mic self-noise, recorder input noise, and rec=
order settings. We strive to make the natural ambient be the dominant noise=
, but it's far from simple with so many variables.
-Dan
On Dec 15, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Klas Strandberg wrote:
> Hi Raimund,
>
> Just to avoid a possible misunderstanding - I am not attacking you or
> your work, no way, but I am kind of annoyed by all the digi-talk, far
> above my understanding, still not being able to explain the most
> simple matters.
> The mysteries that I had as examples of such "simple matters" cannot
> be explained by any logical audio common sense, they are more
> suggesting that there is no "LS-11" (for example) but a number of
> different ones, depending on serial number or whatever.
> I don't know which Zoom or Tascam he used, but he used a LS-11 and
> the PIP was switched off, we checked that.
>
> Klas.
>
> At 23:19 2012-12-15, you wrote:
>>> Example: A client of mine (reporter) had fallen in love with the
>>> sound and use of the old Sennheiser MD21. He had tried it with LS10,
>>> a Tascam and a Zoom recorder, but got far too much noise. However, it
>>> worked just fine with the Sony D50. And this was NOT a matter of 4-5
>>> db, caused by EIN differences.
>>
>> Hi Klas,
>>
>> Are you sure that this was not a matter of EIN differences? At least
>> the diffence between the Sony D50 and the Zoom H2 for instance is
>> huge (-126 vs -99 dBu).
>>
>>> 90% of all Sony D10 users get a audibly lower self noise when using
>>> the Telinga Clip-On's, compared to the built in mics. But some 10% does=
n't.
>>> Why?
>>
>> I can only speculate here. My guess would be that it has something
>> to do with the PIP power. As we have discussed earlier, powering two
>> EM 172 capsules on each channel of the Sony M10 might cause a drop
>> of the supply voltage (measured at the mics) below a critical value.
>> Due to tolerances between the individual capsules, it might work
>> fine in most cases, but perhaps not in others.
>>
>>> The by far noisiest recording that I have heard with the Telinga SSM,
>>> were made with a Nagra digital recorder.
>>> Why?
>>
>> I never had my hands on a Nagra recorder. So, I don't know.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Raimund
>>
>>
>>
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>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause=
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