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Re: Summary: [Nature Recordists] Re: EIN values and bits and peaks

Subject: Re: Summary: [Nature Recordists] Re: EIN values and bits and peaks
From: "Klas Strandberg" klasstrandberg
Date: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:49 pm ((PST))
Hi Raimund,

Just to avoid a possible misunderstanding - I am not attacking you or
your work, no way, but I am kind of annoyed by all the digi-talk, far
above my understanding, still not being able to explain the most
simple matters.
The mysteries that I had as examples of such "simple matters" cannot
be explained by any logical audio common sense, they are more
suggesting that there is no "LS-11" (for example) but a number of
different ones, depending on serial number or whatever.
I don't know which Zoom or Tascam he used, but he used a LS-11 and
the PIP was switched off, we checked that.

Klas.

  At 23:19 2012-12-15, you wrote:
> > Example: A client of mine (reporter) had fallen in love with the
> > sound and use of the old Sennheiser MD21. He had tried it with LS10,
> > a Tascam and a Zoom recorder, but got far too much noise. However, it
> > worked just fine with the Sony D50. And this was NOT a matter of 4-5
> > db, caused by EIN differences.
>
>Hi Klas,
>
>Are you sure that this was not a matter of EIN differences? At least
>the diffence between the Sony D50 and the Zoom H2 for instance is
>huge (-126 vs -99 dBu).
>
> > 90% of all Sony D10 users get a audibly lower self noise when using
> > the Telinga Clip-On's, compared to the built in mics. But some 10% does=
n't.
> > Why?
>
>I can only speculate here. My guess would be that it has something
>to do with the PIP power. As we have discussed earlier, powering two
>EM 172 capsules on each channel of the Sony M10 might cause a drop
>of the supply voltage (measured at the mics) below a critical value.
>Due to tolerances between the individual capsules, it might work
>fine in most cases, but perhaps not in others.
>
> > The by far noisiest recording that I have heard with the Telinga SSM,
> > were made with a Nagra digital recorder.
> > Why?
>
>I never had my hands on a Nagra recorder. So, I don't know.
>
>Regards.
>Raimund
>
>
>
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