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Re: R-44 issue-geek reply

Subject: Re: R-44 issue-geek reply
From: "ac" analog_hell
Date: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:05 am ((PDT))
well i'm definitely NOT hearing this on my R26 and 4060s.

can we conclude that it's perhaps related to the revised design of the DAD6=
001s?

let me know if you want me to post a clip.

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jez <> wrote:
> Hi,
> sure: most of these steps will be obvious but just to make extra 100%
> sure:
> 1) make sure all limiters, filters etc are off on the R-262) turn on
> phantom 3) sensitivity as per factory settings (mid way)4) gain dials:
> the issue can be heard at any level but turn it up high until you hear
> the digital display sound, then dial it back - once your ears pick it up
> you can focus on it even it really low gain levels.
> I've uploaded a few short examples of these issues on both the R-26 &
> the R-44 here:
> r-26 & r-44 issues
> <http://soundcloud.com/jrf-tests/sets/roland-r-44-r-26-issues>
>
> (please note: these recordings were done by a frustrated me in a room
> covered with microphones, adaptors, cables, battery packs, manuals &
> various other arghhhh whats-going-on clutter - so don't expect them to
> be with mics measured into the right positions :) =C2=A0- they were all m=
ade
> with the mics placed as far from the recorder as possible in the room
> though)
> interestingly the only mic i've tried so far in the R-44 that somehow
> (another total mystery) seem to result in the display noise issue is the
> Sanken CUW-180 !
>
>
> --- In  ac <> wrote:
>>
>> Jez - i have a brand new SMK4060 set of 4060s and an R26 and i'm not
>> sure i'm experiencing the same thing.
>>
>> Do you have an example we can listen to?
>>
>> Can you explain the steps to reproduce?
>>
>> ac
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Jez  wrote:
>> > ta.
>> >
>> > yes, I was aware that the R-26 had the same pre-amps as the R-44.
> Still testing to work out if they sound the same though :)
>> >
>> > DPA adaptor - thats interesting. The ones I have just say DAD6001 on
> them & they are a couple of years old so I probably have the early ones.
> I'll mention this to DPA & see if they can make any comment on whether
> either the new or the older one would make any difference.
>> >
>> > ta.
>> >
>> > --- In  "sainganrob"
> unbalancedmike@ wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- In  "Jez" <tempjez@> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > its definitely something between roland & the dpa's - its a new
> unit & it also does it on the R-26 (also new).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> FWIW, from Roland's website .. "The R-26 inputs are equipped with
> high-performance mic preamps directly inherited from Roland's R-44
> professional recorder"
>> >>
>> >> DAD6001-BC adapter and R-44/R-26 problem interaction?? dunno!
>> >>
>> >> The newer DAD6001-BC(-Belt Clip)adapter is an active device 100R
> output 3.5mA consumption. The older, just DAD6001, was a passive RC unit
> with a zener for 'hot plugging' protection. If you could get hold of and
> try one of the earlier ones (or I could pm you the schematic to make
> one) it may provide a solution.
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause.
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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> ------------------------------------
>
> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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