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Re: R-44 issue-geek reply

Subject: Re: R-44 issue-geek reply
From: "Jez" tempjez
Date: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:30 am ((PDT))
interesting ! I've emailed DPA to double check which of the two adaptor des=
igns I have (as they both look the same & both came with belt clips at some=
 point).

What about the display screen noise though ac ? you should be getting that =
at high gain (its there all the time but listening whilst recording at high=
 gain will show it up if you haven't heard it before). Perhaps post a 30 se=
conds clip of as quiet a space as you have so we can take a listen & see if=
 its there.

ta,

Jez

--- In  ac <> wrote:
>
> well i'm definitely NOT hearing this on my R26 and 4060s.
>
> can we conclude that it's perhaps related to the revised design of the DA=
D6001s?
>
> let me know if you want me to post a clip.
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jez <> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > sure: most of these steps will be obvious but just to make extra 100%
> > sure:
> > 1) make sure all limiters, filters etc are off on the R-262) turn on
> > phantom 3) sensitivity as per factory settings (mid way)4) gain dials:
> > the issue can be heard at any level but turn it up high until you hear
> > the digital display sound, then dial it back - once your ears pick it u=
p
> > you can focus on it even it really low gain levels.
> > I've uploaded a few short examples of these issues on both the R-26 &
> > the R-44 here:
> > r-26 & r-44 issues
> > <http://soundcloud.com/jrf-tests/sets/roland-r-44-r-26-issues>
> >
> > (please note: these recordings were done by a frustrated me in a room
> > covered with microphones, adaptors, cables, battery packs, manuals &
> > various other arghhhh whats-going-on clutter - so don't expect them to
> > be with mics measured into the right positions :) =C2=A0- they were all=
 made
> > with the mics placed as far from the recorder as possible in the room
> > though)
> > interestingly the only mic i've tried so far in the R-44 that somehow
> > (another total mystery) seem to result in the display noise issue is th=
e
> > Sanken CUW-180 !
> >
> >
> > --- In  ac <analoghell@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jez - i have a brand new SMK4060 set of 4060s and an R26 and i'm not
> >> sure i'm experiencing the same thing.
> >>
> >> Do you have an example we can listen to?
> >>
> >> Can you explain the steps to reproduce?
> >>
> >> ac
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Jez tempjez@ wrote:
> >> > ta.
> >> >
> >> > yes, I was aware that the R-26 had the same pre-amps as the R-44.
> > Still testing to work out if they sound the same though :)
> >> >
> >> > DPA adaptor - thats interesting. The ones I have just say DAD6001 on
> > them & they are a couple of years old so I probably have the early ones=
.
> > I'll mention this to DPA & see if they can make any comment on whether
> > either the new or the older one would make any difference.
> >> >
> >> > ta.
> >> >
> >> > --- In  "sainganrob"
> > unbalancedmike@ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- In  "Jez" <tempjez@> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > its definitely something between roland & the dpa's - its a new
> > unit & it also does it on the R-26 (also new).
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> FWIW, from Roland's website .. "The R-26 inputs are equipped with
> > high-performance mic preamps directly inherited from Roland's R-44
> > professional recorder"
> >> >>
> >> >> DAD6001-BC adapter and R-44/R-26 problem interaction?? dunno!
> >> >>
> >> >> The newer DAD6001-BC(-Belt Clip)adapter is an active device 100R
> > output 3.5mA consumption. The older, just DAD6001, was a passive RC uni=
t
> > with a zener for 'hot plugging' protection. If you could get hold of an=
d
> > try one of the earlier ones (or I could pm you the schematic to make
> > one) it may provide a solution.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rob
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> > Krause.
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kraus=
e.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>








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