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Re: Sony PCM-M10 vs Zoom H4n best for outdoors / capturing frogs in

Subject: Re: Sony PCM-M10 vs Zoom H4n best for outdoors / capturing frogs in
From: "Rich DDT" sfroommate
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2012 7:56 pm ((PST))
Thanks so much for addressing me individually! I really respect all your th=
orough research & experience. Is this the site I should use to compare mics=
?:
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/type/www/audio-art-tech-gallery/index.html

Is there any one mic here (perhaps parabolic) you'd recommend for capturing=
 individual animal sounds in the jungle?

Thanks again,
Rich

--- In  "robin_parmar_sound" <> w=
rote:
>
> Rich, there are various ways of looking at this. On the one hand you may =
as well get the recorder with the best pre-amps you can for the money you a=
re going to spend, taking into account any features you think are indispens=
able.
>
> On the other hand, there's no point getting a super-quiet pre-amp if your=
 mics are noisy. Unless you have a mic with less than 16dB (A) noise floor =
you needn't worry much. (Check out Rob Danielson's site for more on this an=
d handy charts). This is likely the root of comments like "a few dB of diff=
erence is really not a big deal". In any case technique means a whole lot m=
ore. Get a mic a little closer to your source and it can make a significant=
 improvement in signal strength compared to the noise floor.
>
> Not to mention that other sounds from the environment are likely going to=
 be louder and more irritating.
>
> I wouldn't wait for the latest greatest model of recorder. It is unlikely=
 to have specs that beat (or even match) the existing units. All consumer g=
rade electronics depends on integrated circuitry and a very few Chinese man=
ufacturers. Until the next chip generation that's engineered for lower nois=
e (not a priority for these manufacturers) things are going to stay much th=
e same.
>
> Bottom line is you can't really go wrong with the PCM-M10 for the money. =
The next step up is a shoulder-sized recorder with phantom and significantl=
y better EIN (something like the Fostex FR-2LE). But you do need quiet exte=
rnal mics for that to matter.
>
> -- Robin Parmar
>











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