I use the pre-record buffer on my PCM-M10 a lot. It saves having to listen to
lots of unwanted material later. There are other ways, like pressing the track
mark button, or even writing down the time, but I'm too disorganised and
impatient.
I recently used its internal mics in a quiet environment for the first time
recently, and was a little shocked at how much self noise I can hear on the
recordings. For an example, listen to:
http://soundcloud.com/petershute/111229-03brandyck
This is what prompted my recent thread about external microphones. I'm going to
start one soon about noise removal techniques to try to improve that recording
and some others like it.
If the Zoom is even noiser, then I'm glad I didn't get one. But I think it can
record 4 tracks? If so then that would be nice.
If you won't be recording in a very quiet environment then it shouldn't be a
problem. I made another recording nearby to that place a couple of days later
when it was warmer, and the background of buzzing flies obscured the microphone
hiss.
Disclaimer: I'm very new to all this, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
Peter Shute
From: On
Behalf Of Rich DDT
Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 3:15 PM
To:
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Sony PCM-M10 vs Zoom H4n best for outdoors /
capturing frogs in the jungle?
I'm new to nature recording but plan to use sounds from the outdoors to use in
music productions. I want a great quality setup but looking to spend less than
$300-350, at least for now. An external mic may very well be in my future, but
for now I want to start simple using the onboard mic.
I've read reviews here:
http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html
including the followup articles, as well as several other posts on this forum.
At first the Zoom H4n seemed like the most versatile choice, having XLR / 1/4"
inputs seemed great for being able to directly capture musicians too (another
desired usage). However the reviews preferred the low noise of the Sony
PCM-M10, esp for capturing quieter outdoor sounds and ambiance. The Olympus
LS-11 seemed tempting too, but the more I think about it, the more I think I'd
use the pre-record buffer for capturing a definitive croak (or tweet or howl).
Using onboard mics, am I right to choose the M10? Will I really notice a big
sound quality loss with the Zoom H4n?
Assuming the M10 is still the best choice, can anyone recommend these
windscreens over the expensive $50 Sony model ADPCM2?
http://store.micover.com/micover-slipover-mini-for-sony-pcm-m10-on-board.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/470272-REG/Rode_DEAD_KITTEN_Dead_Kitten_WindMuff_for.html
Thanks for any assistance! I really appreciate the dedication to quality I've
seen in this forum. :)
Cheers,
Rich
"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
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