folks, i talked to mr. haun today.
i asked him about the 7db(A). he was surprised and said that this is a
mistake. the capsule is the ka400.
and the capsule should have 11db(A).
i also asked why the cardioids have a better selfnoise than the omnis.
he said that those low noise levels are hard to messure (??)
and that hes not sure about some single dbs... whatever that means.
rob- do you have meassured the KA100? i think they say it have 14db(A)
of selfnoise. correct?
Am 14.07.2010 um 08:38 schrieb Rob Danielson:
> Emil--
> I own KA100 DK omnis that I use with a 603 (A)
> XLR pre. The MBHO specs for that pair seem about
> right. The 603 pre specs with higher output and
> less noise than the 648 pre. It does look
> possible that the KA400 specs closer to 11db(A),
> not 7dB(A) self-noise and only with the quieter
> pre, not the 648 described. Rob D.
>
> =3D =3D =3D =3D
>
> At 7:28 AM +0200 7/14/10, emil klotzsch wrote:
> >hi rob,
> >i will ask them today,
> >interestingly the omni (14dbA) capsules are more noisy than their
> >cardioids (12dbA)... at least there specs do say that.
> >http://www.mbho.de/pdf/ka200n_ka400n.pdf and
> >http://www.mbho.de/pdf/ka100lk_ka100dk_ka300nb.pdf
> >and in the text it reads that you can use those capsules even with
> the
> >mbp648pz..
> >the KA400 is allready attached, which has a self noise of 11db(A)
> >together with the 603 A. and a lowcut at 50hz.
> >
> >if i=B4m honest, its all a little bit strange to me. why are the omnis
> >noisier than the cardioids? and why is the self noise so excelent
> if a
> >capsule is mounted to the plate? (pz)
> >
> >i asked the guy i phoned with from mbho what is their most silent
> mic,
> >an he says that i just should try them. he would not wanted to talk
> >too much about the specs..
> >
> >
> >Am 14.07.2010 um 00:46 schrieb Rob Danielson:
> >
> >> Hi Emil--
> >> Comparing MBP 648 PZ's to AT4022's on the SD 702
> >> or DR680 would be very telling-- especially in
> >> the quieter location your planning the next test
> >> for. Did you ask whether the 648 PZ heads can be
> >> detached from the plates? I see that capsules
> >> with different polar patterns can be used. If
> >> they have omni's, they might be even quieter than
> >> the cardioids. Rob D.
> >>
> >> =3D =3D =3D
> >>
> >> At 11:36 PM +0200 7/13/10, emil klotzsch wrote:
> >> >hi daniel,
> >> >strange site, could be new, but you never know, some things they
> >> offer
> >> >are not even mentioned on the site as i heard.
> >> >i phoned them today, and they are very friendly. the would send me
> >> >some mics for testing if i want to.
> >> >lets see, i have enough to do and test the next time (the tascam
> is
> >> >here with some 4022..):-), but this seems to be very interesting..
> >> >emil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Am 13.07.2010 um 15:56 schrieb Rob Danielson:
> >> >
> >> > > At 8:58 AM +0200 7/13/10, emil klotzsch wrote:
> >> >> >hi,
> >> >> >anybody ever tried those mics?:
> >> >> ><http://www.mbho.de/pdf/mbp648pz_mbnm620pz.pdf>http://www.mbho.de/=
pdf/mbp648pz_mbnm620pz.pdf
> >> >> >
> >> >> >they seem to have a self noise of 7db(A)?
> >> >> >i think i have missread it, right?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >any other thoughts about mbho?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >all the best
> >> >> >evs
> >> >> >
> >> >> Hi Emil--
> >> >> Good find! I was looking over the MBHO mic offerings a few
> months
> >> >> back. Could it be new?
> >> >>
> >> >> The specs suggest 7db(A) self-noise to me. The sensitivity is on
> >> the
> >> >> low side but workable (14 mV/Pa). With the head separated from
> the
> >> >> xlr barrel, one might be able to mount it in a number of ways.
> As-
> >> is,
> >> >> mounted perpendicular to a small boundary, its very similar to
> >> >> Crown's PCC or Phase Coherent Cardioid Mic http://tinyurl.com/24xyw=
sv
> >> >> The PCC is the closest cousin I know of to Curt's wooden
> boundary
> >> >> mics-- the most common version being the Parallel Boundary with
> >> omni
> >> >> mics. The tone of cardioid mics on a boundary is usually a
> little
> >> >> warmer and the polar pattern is a little more front
> directional as
> >> >> you would expect.
> >> >>
> >> >> MBHO makes quality mics. I can imagine trying the capsules in a
> >> some
> >> >> boundary arrays that might work better for spatial imaging
> than the
> >> >> small perp2 plates, so I'm wondering if the mic be separated
> from
> >> the
> >> > > plate and if MBHO would give someone one to test. Rob D.
> >>
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