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Re: Suburban Soundscape and New Telinga Clip-Ons

Subject: Re: Suburban Soundscape and New Telinga Clip-Ons
From: "Mike Rooke" picnet2
Date: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:33 pm ((PDT))
Sorry Klas to clarify further,

I meant if the packaging/wind protection is opened to get to the raw capsul=
e in order to place it near a boundary.

They sound great, hopeful we will listen to more examples here.
Im sure due to the amount of pip recorders they will attract a lot of atten=
tion.

Have you tried them or do you have any comments about how they sound in a p=
arabolic dish?  Even if the dish brings +10dB sensitivity increase, then ef=
fectively your down to 4dbA already? Amazing to think this is possible now.

BR
-Mike.



--- In  Klas Strandberg <> wrot=
e:
>
> Good point, I didn't realize that people might think that they
> violate the warranty if they experimented. (I am not sure that I have
> understood you correctly, however. )
>
> The package will contain two small tubes for storing the mic's when
> they are packed down in a trunk or bag. It will also have a paper
> saying something like "do not bend, twist or otherwise use force on
> the capsules under the nylon mesh."
>
> I really look forward to see what kinds of barriers and other gears
> that people invent to make good recordings with these capsules!
>
> Klas
>
> At 12:23 2010-03-28, you wrote:
> >Klas,
> >     re: barrier,
> >      Depends the packaging options, if the end user is not going to
> > open the clips take the  wrapping off to expose the omnis in order
> > to place them near a barrier perhaps an alternative may be offered
> > for those that wish to experiment? Altering the packaging from your
> > original to such an extent may void any warranty you offer.
> >
> >Ive not found any reason why they would not sound fantastic if they
> >are near a surface other than the need for post EQ or alteration to
> >the response - it depends on the barrier.
> >
> >Heres similar capsules used in a different boundaries:
> >http://www.urlme.net/blog/?p=3D1213
> >
> >An example of how mine sound in urethane ears after EQ can be found
> >in this article:-
> >http://www.urlme.net/blog/?p=3D1307
> >
> >Or a nature recording:
> >http://www.urlme.net/blog/?p=3D1297
> >
> >or Log spiral plate:
> >http://www.urlme.net/blog/?p=3D1150
> >
> >or in my ear:-
> >http://www.urlme.net/blog/?p=3D1096
> >
> >Its always possible to create EQ curves for a dummy head bringing them
> >to free field similar to large diaphragm condensers:-
> >http://www.urlme.net/blog/?p=3D1053
> >
> >Or to add deliberate 'interference' structures around them to boost
> >key frequencies, after such increase in sensitivity the hiss in this
> >example at 7khz all but vanishes once inverse EQ is applied bringing
> >the mic back to free field. (or diffuse if you prefer that):-
> >http://www.urlme.net/blog/?p=3D1032   (as used by Gordon Hempton)
> >
> >Maybe if the intended use is in DIY gear I would strongly urge you
> >to offer them for such purpose even at premium prices? Im sure a lot
> >of recordists would be very interested in access to these capsules
> >and would be willing to beat a path to your door. The increased
> >interest would also highlight attention to your other products which
> >is a win win situation.
> >
> >Kind Regards
> >Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In  Klas Strandberg <telinga@> wrot=
e:
> > >
> > > Yes, more or less, but I especially mean if you use them in a
> > pressure zone.
> > >
> > > There are no better omnis on the market (high output, linear freq.
> > > resp. and low self noise) running on Plug In Power if you use them
> > > "open". Which effect you get when you use a Jecklin disc, SASS, a
> > > tree or your head, will be up to your own taste and DIY skill.
> > > However, I think you are perfectly safe (saving the excellency) if
> > > you use them with a Jecklin disc some 2-300 mm from each other.
> > >
> > > Klas
> > >
> > >
> > > At 23:09 2010-03-27, you wrote:
> > > >Klas,
> > > >
> > > >The clip ons are likely to be used by folk in binaural head and
> > > >jeklin configurations, so does this qualify as a 'surface close to
> > > >them' ?
> > > >
> > > >cheers,
> > > >
> > > >Vicki
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 27/03/2010, at 9:22 AM, Klas Strandberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Vicky!
> > > > >
> > > > > Other mic capsules, to put it briefly. But in a config like Telin=
ga
> > > > > LS10 stereo, the difference is very small.
> > > > > The capsules that I use for the Clip-On mic's sound fantastic as =
long
> > > > > as you don't have any surface close to them. That is why there is=
 no
> > > > > point in using them in a PZM config.
> > > > >
> > > > > Klas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Vicky wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Question for Klas - what is the difference between the LS10 ster=
eo
> > > > >> mic that I have, and the new PIP mics?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Vicki
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > > >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kr=
ause
> > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > > S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> > > Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> > > email: telinga@
> > > website: www.telinga.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> email: 
> website: www.telinga.com
>
>
>








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