The only info I have on the LS-10 bass cut was from an earlier posting
on the list some months ago that detailed what the manufacturer had
integrated into their program.
Bernie
On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Klas Strandberg wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for comments! It's just the kind of comments that I need.
> Remember that I used the LS-10 base filter!
> Bernie also claims that LS-10 has a built in base filter which is
> "in" all the time.
> Is that right?
>
> Note that the file "......-filtrered.MP3" has a EQ - 3 db at 4 kHz
> and + 6 db at 100 Hz and a bit of shuffling with a Wavelab S1
> shuffler plug-in.
>
> Klas.
>
> At 05:27 2009-07-12, you wrote:
> >Hi Klas--
> >
> >The main difference I notice is some additional
> >lower mid-range "roar" in MKH 30-40 compared to
> >your binaural rig. The space created by the
> >binaural rig seems larger/airier possibly because
> >one can hear more of the higher registers of the
> >sound reflections in the 240-900Hz range. Of
> >course, the ambience could be quite different
> >between the takes but I suspect some of this
> >difference would show-up consistently.
> >
> >I haven't studied all of the takes you've made
> >with your new mic, but its has some very nice
> >qualities for recording ambience. The spread
> >across the center seems quite good. I agree with
> >everyone that its quite bright and I see that as
> >a good thing. I'm not hearing brittleness and I'd
> >rather have more presence 2K to 5K than a
> >deficit. I frequently add HF curves to many mics
> >in post anyway, especially when used in dense
> >vegetation. I think Dan has pointed out some HF
> >tonal emphasis in the EM-23's. Its not as big of
> >a concern to me as it was in the days before
> >digital EQ plugs.
> >
> >It would be ideal if the brightness could be
> >balanced with a little more deep bass response.
> >(My obsession with lowest octaves is not typical
> >for nature recordists, however). Its hard to
> >judge the relative low bass response without
> >more control between samples and a M-S matrix can
> >be weighted more towards the figure 8 or cardioid.
> >
> >I'd be happy to experiment with some EQ and make
> >some more observations but it would be probably
> >be more reliable to work from the original, pre
> >normalization, shuffling etc.
> >
> >There certainly is a big need for such a mic!
> >Exciting that you are working on it. Rob D.
> >
> > =3D =3D =3D =3D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 1:49 AM +0200 7/12/09, Klas Strandberg wrote:
> > >Hi Rob and thanks for participating!
> > >
> > >I listened to the shorter file.
> > >
> > >Yes, MS and this crazy set up that I tested does not sound the
> same.
> > >On the other hand I don=B4t think background sound and ambience was =
> the
> > >same either.
> > >
> > >The mike was an experiment to be evaluated when I took it to Murie
> > >Center. As Bernie jumped up and down out of happiness when he
> > >recorded the aspen leaves, (even though he said he hated me...) we
> > >made jokes about what we were going to call it and it ended up in
> MurieMike.
> > >It works for some purposes. It runs on the LS-10 PIP, makes some 14
> > >dB(A) noise and is extremely easy to use and reliable. The question
> > >is if it works as a soundscape mike in general?
> > >That is, - does it sound "realistic" enough? Or "nice".
> > >An how can the sound be manipulated by software?
> > >
> > >As it is, I tend to judge that high freq. are too separate, like
> the
> > >rain is to the right and left, but less straight
> > >forward. This can be adjusted.
> > >
> > >It is extremely difficult to judge over ones own design. Hearing is
> > >too subjective and when you have listened to the same mike a number
> > >of times you get "deaf" both for it=B4s qualities and shortcomings.
> > >Comments from others are invaluable.
> > >
> > >Klas.
> > >
> > >At 01:04 2009-07-12, you wrote:
> > >>Kevin wrote:
> > >> >I've posted two related podcasts at www.7Loons.com:
> > >> >
> > >> >Lincoln's Sparrow, at the same location as Klas' recording but
> on the
> > >> >next day, done with a Sony PCM D1 using the built in XY
> configuration
> > >> >mics -
> > >> >
> > >>
> > ><http://www.7loons.com/Soundscapes_for_Birders/Soundscape_for_Birder
> >http://www.7loons.com/Soundscapes_for_Birders/Soundscape_for_Birder
> > >> s%3A_Podcasts/Entries/2009/7/5_Lincoln
> > >> >'s_Sparrow_at_Grand_Teton_National_Park%2C_WY.html
> > >> >
> > >> >and
> > >> >
> > >> >Two Oceans Lake, at a very near location with SD 722 and
> Sennheiser
> > >> >30/40 MS pair -
> > >> >
> > >>
> > ><http://www.7loons.com/Soundscapes_for_Birders/Soundscape_for_Birder
> >http://www.7loons.com/Soundscapes_for_Birders/Soundscape_for_Birder
> > >> s%3A_Podcasts/Entries/
> 2009/7/8_Two_Oceans_Lake,_Grand_Teton_NP,_WY.html
> > >> >
> > >> >Kevin
> > >> >www.7Loons.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Klas Strandberg wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I sent two soundscape files to
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >><http://www.telinga.com/gallery/gallery_private.htm>http://www.tel
> > inga.com/gallery/gallery_private.htm
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Klas.
> > > > >>
> > >> >> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > >> >> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> > > > >> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> > >> >> email: <telinga%40bahnhof.se>
> > >> > > website: www.telinga.com
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi Kevin & Klas--
> > >>Thanks for sharing the samples, fellows. I took
> > >>Klas's Two Ocean's_Lake_Short.mp3 and Kevin's Two
> > >>Oceans Lake, WY 090623.mp3 and cut back & forth
> > >>between them on a movie timeline. Not scientific
> > >>but it could help make some of the differences in
> > >>the micing systems more evident. Rob D.
> > >>
> > >><https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/type/public/media/KlasBinaural_Kevn>h
> > ttps://pantherfile.uwm.edu/type/public/media/KlasBinaural_Kevn'sM-
> S_Sor3LrgSz.mov
> > >>Its large (20mb) and a QuickTime move. (Sorry about that Klas.)
> > >>
> > >>Here is the same comparison as just a mp3
> > >>starting with Klas' binaural rig and alternating
> > >>back and forth with Kevin's MKH 39-40 M-S Rig.
> > >>
> > >><https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/type/public/media/KlasBinaural_Kevn%2
> > 7sM-S.mp3>https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/type/public/media/KlasBinaural_Ke=
vn%27sM-S.mp3
> > >>
> > >>Rob D.
> > >>--
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > >>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via
> Bernie Krause
> > >>Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > >S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> > >Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> > >email: <telinga%40bahnhof.se>
> > >website: www.telinga.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> email:
> website: www.telinga.com
>
>
>
>
>
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