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Re: modified ambient recording setup AT 3032

Subject: Re: modified ambient recording setup AT 3032
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_rob
Date: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:36 pm ((PST))
At 1:53 PM +1100 11/20/07, Paul Jacobson wrote:
>Hi Rob,
>
>I'm using the "reverse wedge" design, at the bottom of the Curt's
>stereo rigs page. I've tried to replicate the dimensions Curt
>describes in his notes as far as possible.

The imaging performance of the reverse wedge design is quite 
surprising isn't it?  Here's a photo of your rig compared to one I 
recently took of Curt's:  
http://ad2004.hku.nl/naturesound/RobD/Olson-Jacobsen-SetBacks.jpg 
Could the set-back distance on your rig be a tad greater than Curt's? 
When a group of students and I studied this variable, we found that 
localization stood up quite well with parallel barriers even when the 
capsules were only set-back 1/2" (12.5mm) from the leading edges. 
Some of us felt that localization was slightly better and the depth a 
bit more uniform with the shorter set-back. I'd be tempted to try a 
shorter set-back and the barriers a little less angled-out. This 
might produce a tad more brilliance from front-center and perhaps a 
little less front-back confusion.  Its hard for me to judge without 
the knowledge of where things were in the setting but I think you can 
get a little better localization around center with some adjusting.

>The length of the barriers is pretty close - within a couple of
>millimetres, but the boards 10mm narrower and 6mm thinner than the
>100mmx25mm boards that Curt used. The external faces of the barriers
>are 12mm closer together than on Curt's rig, as I've matched the
>internal spacing of the barriers at the front of the array to
>maintain a similar angle between the barriers.
>
>Thinking about it, I have most likely got the the LF-cut switched in
>on the AT-3032's which could also account for some of the missing bass?

Very useful to know. Also, now that I'm listening at home (rather 
than in an airport corridor saturated with low Hz), the left-right 
contrast might stem from the right mic having a bit more  response in 
the lower mid range. I can hear this when I momentarily click on the 
timeline at various points as slightly more "low growl" on the right 
channel. Sonograms of a couple of seconds with minimum presence 
(~6:45 in) seem to bear this out:

Frequencies under 1600Hz. Right channel on right side; left channel on left.
http://ad2004.hku.nl/naturesound/RobD/Left_Right_Channels%3C1600K.jpg
Right Channel with 100-500Hz highlighted below:
http://ad2004.hku.nl/naturesound/RobD/Right_Louder_100-500Hz.jpg

The upper harmonics from the lowest octaves might lessen this 
difference if you don't use the roll-off filter. Sounds from the 
greatest distances often create the lowest octaves as they interact 
with the local surfaces. Leaving them in might add spatiality. One 
can always "notch" out over-emphasized low frequencies that seem to 
create a sustained "drone(s)" and this can leave more of the spectrum 
and natural tonal balance intact. Could the left mic could be a tad 
hotter under 100Hz?  If so, this might also even-out with the low Hz 
cut filters off.  Rob D.

>
>cheers
>Paul
>


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