Lots of good points Martyn... and everyone else of course, a good (but depr=
essing) topic for sure. My modo is, I do the best I can to preserve nature =
where I live, not just where I visit. Not only do I WANT to do that, but it=
also?makes me feel "less depressed" about?it all. After all, my contributi=
ons are probably equal to a molecule of a drop of water in a an Olympic siz=
ed swimming pool, but hey, I'm trying and I care. I'm sure all of us in thi=
s group feel the same.?But one can't help but feel helpless against an ever=
growing population against shrinking nature. Can you imagine if some polit=
ician?actually (openly) wanted to push a law like they did in China for onl=
y being able to have one child per family in this country (U.S.)... talk ab=
out a touchy subject! Wow, would that be interesting!
-----Original Message-----
From: Martyn Stewart <>
To:
Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] I heard the owl call my name
My answer would be almost unprintable here, Bernie!
As a species we have lost touch with the real world, we are
materialistic and greedy. we can not see past our own noses.
from the days of when i was a kid to present day we have destroyed
habitat after habitat, i remember when i was about 7 years of age
wondering what the word extinction meant, i looked at the Dodo, irish
elk, Passenger pigeon etc and wondered how the hell could we loose a
species and with it, a million years of history. 45 years on from then
there is so much on the brink and yet WE grow and flourish! we expand
without reason and we pillage the very earth we rely on for life.
Yet we look at non-native species and become judge and jury. Certain
animals have had to adapt to new horizons because of us.
We talk about new recorders and gadgets to record with, we talk about
low noise microphones and quiet pre-amps and yet the only thing that
is getting noisier is us.
I could record for ages when i was younger in pristine habitats, not
anymore. i believe half of this group would not know what a quiet
environment was if it crept up on them.... we don't do enough for the
world we live in and we are on a self destruct mission.
I dislike my own species because we have lost the very simple
fundamentals of life. Love, sharing and compassion.
To see a magical animal like a polar bear possibly disappear in 20
years is unthinkable, with a decrease in mankind it would stand a
chance as would many other species too.
How can a dove singing on someone's roof be bothersome or turkey's
clucking in the countryside compare to the mindless idiots who make
noises with their cars and off road vehicles etc?
You are right, Jim, Bernie. this surely is a conversation stopper, i
get a little depressed to say the least when all you can do is sit
back and watch us destroy each other.
off my environmental soap box..........
Martyn
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On Nov 2, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Bernie Krause wrote:
> Good point, Jim.
>
> More to the point (always a conversation stopper): exactly whom do we
> eliminate? Who decides?
> Who administrates?
>
> Food for thought...
>
> Bernie
>
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Jim Morgan wrote:
>
> > Martyn,
> >
> > You have just described the major cause of almost all of our
> > environmental problems, excess population! An issue that is of
> > major importance that few wish to discuss.
> >
> > Thanks for pointing this out to the group.
> >
> > Jim
> >
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