And then, finally, a quote from the late Paul Shepard:
It=92s human nature to explore everything but one=92s preconceptions.
On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:00 AM, wrote:
>
> Lots of good points Martyn... and everyone else of course, a good
> (but depressing) topic for sure. My modo is, I do the best I can to
> preserve nature where I live, not just where I visit. Not only do I
> WANT to do that, but it also?makes me feel "less depressed" about?
> it all. After all, my contributions are probably equal to a
> molecule of a drop of water in a an Olympic sized swimming pool,
> but hey, I'm trying and I care. I'm sure all of us in this group
> feel the same.?But one can't help but feel helpless against an ever
> growing population against shrinking nature. Can you imagine if
> some politician?actually (openly) wanted to push a law like they
> did in China for only being able to have one child per family in
> this country (U.S.)... talk about a touchy subject! Wow, would that
> be interesting!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martyn Stewart <>
> To:
> Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:31 pm
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] I heard the owl call my name
>
> My answer would be almost unprintable here, Bernie!
> As a species we have lost touch with the real world, we are
> materialistic and greedy. we can not see past our own noses.
> from the days of when i was a kid to present day we have destroyed
> habitat after habitat, i remember when i was about 7 years of age
> wondering what the word extinction meant, i looked at the Dodo, irish
> elk, Passenger pigeon etc and wondered how the hell could we loose a
> species and with it, a million years of history. 45 years on from then
> there is so much on the brink and yet WE grow and flourish! we expand
> without reason and we pillage the very earth we rely on for life.
> Yet we look at non-native species and become judge and jury. Certain
> animals have had to adapt to new horizons because of us.
> We talk about new recorders and gadgets to record with, we talk about
> low noise microphones and quiet pre-amps and yet the only thing that
> is getting noisier is us.
> I could record for ages when i was younger in pristine habitats, not
> anymore. i believe half of this group would not know what a quiet
> environment was if it crept up on them.... we don't do enough for the
> world we live in and we are on a self destruct mission.
> I dislike my own species because we have lost the very simple
> fundamentals of life. Love, sharing and compassion.
> To see a magical animal like a polar bear possibly disappear in 20
> years is unthinkable, with a decrease in mankind it would stand a
> chance as would many other species too.
> How can a dove singing on someone's roof be bothersome or turkey's
> clucking in the countryside compare to the mindless idiots who make
> noises with their cars and off road vehicles etc?
>
> You are right, Jim, Bernie. this surely is a conversation stopper, i
> get a little depressed to say the least when all you can do is sit
> back and watch us destroy each other.
>
> off my environmental soap box..........
>
> Martyn
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> On Nov 2, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Bernie Krause wrote:
>
> > Good point, Jim.
> >
> > More to the point (always a conversation stopper): exactly whom
> do we
> > eliminate? Who decides?
> > Who administrates?
> >
> > Food for thought...
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Jim Morgan wrote:
> >
> > > Martyn,
> > >
> > > You have just described the major cause of almost all of our
> > > environmental problems, excess population! An issue that is of
> > > major importance that few wish to discuss.
> > >
> > > Thanks for pointing this out to the group.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
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