I just wonder if there are different series of DAP1's??? Wouldn't surprise=
me. I remember that some of the old Sony D3 had terrible mic input's, while=
others were very good.
Here, with my old Tascam (one of the first) we could clearly hear the noise=
difference between two mic's - one making 10 dbA noise and the other 6 dbA.=
That wouldn't have been possible with a noisy Tascam!?
Another problem is that some Tascam's have poor phantom power filtering.
This may add strange noise.
Klas.
At 18:17 2005-04-20, you wrote:
>Since we last discussed the difference in
>experiences with the DAP's pre, I came across
>some more info. It seems the DAP1 has a unusual
>preamp design which some people argue is not
>well-suited for high gain recording. As I recall,
>it has to do with the pad (attenuation) circuit
>and some other stuff. The Oade brothers do a
>modifcation to address this and there are other
>sites with consistent opinions. On both of the
>DAP1's I have access to, the use of a MP2
>definitely lessens the noise over the built-in
>pre when recording ambience with high gain in
>quiet locations. I use very low noise mics
>including mkh-20's. Rob D.
>
> =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
>
>At 8:12 AM -0700 4/20/05, Tim Nielsen wrote:
> >I might have to disagree a bit here. The tests that we've done, using a
> >DAP1 and a Sound Devices MP2, and a pair of Schoeps, is that the MP2
> >preamp is significantly better than the Tascam's. Lower noise, but
> >maybe more importantly, better ability to handle louder sounds, and
> >overall better imaging. I find the Tascam's preamps too noisy, if
> >you're recording quiet sounds, I think you can hear the difference.
> >
> >But the Tascam's preamps are not bad, they're nowhere near as noisy as
> >that larger Sony DAT, was it the Pro2 or something like that? The HHB's
> >preamps are good, but even there I noticed a significant improvement by
> >adding a Grace Design Lunatec preamp to it.
> >
> >Just my thoughts.
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:34 AM, Klas Strandberg wrote:
> >
> >> I have a Tascam and when using a MKH20 (or similar), - what I then
> >> hear is
> >> mic noise, not Tascam noise. For noise reasons, there is no point in
> >> getting an extra preamp.
> >>
> >> Klas.
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:59 2005-04-20, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >hello list
> >> >i had a question about using condensor microphones and
> >> pre-amplifiers.
> >> >would the pre-amps on a tacam da-p1 dat deck be sufficient or shoul=
d
> >> one
> >> >rather go with an external pre-amp, such as the sound devices mix p=
re
> >> >http://www.sounddevices.com/products/mx2master.htm
> >> >i want to record with two oktava mc-012 condensor microphones.
> >> >i currently use a sony tcd-d8 dat. the size is great, but it has no
> >> >phantom power. i want to upgrade; the question is whether to buy a
> >> >pre-amp or to buy another dat which has phantom power (such as the
> >> >tascam da-p1).
> >> >thanks very much for any help.
> >> >best regards
> >> >jason kahn
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> >A listening room is not nature."
> >> >Klas Strandberg
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> >> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> >> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> >> email:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Microphones are not ears,
> >> Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> A listening room is not nature."
> >> Klas Strandberg
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >A listening room is not nature."
> >Klas Strandberg
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>Rob Danielson
>Film Department
>University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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