Since we last discussed the difference in
experiences with the DAP's pre, I came across
some more info. It seems the DAP1 has a unusual
preamp design which some people argue is not
well-suited for high gain recording. As I recall,
it has to do with the pad (attenuation) circuit
and some other stuff. The Oade brothers do a
modifcation to address this and there are other
sites with consistent opinions. On both of the
DAP1's I have access to, the use of a MP2
definitely lessens the noise over the built-in
pre when recording ambience with high gain in
quiet locations. I use very low noise mics
including mkh-20's. Rob D.
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At 8:12 AM -0700 4/20/05, Tim Nielsen wrote:
>I might have to disagree a bit here. The tests that we've done, using a
>DAP1 and a Sound Devices MP2, and a pair of Schoeps, is that the MP2
>preamp is significantly better than the Tascam's. Lower noise, but
>maybe more importantly, better ability to handle louder sounds, and
>overall better imaging. I find the Tascam's preamps too noisy, if
>you're recording quiet sounds, I think you can hear the difference.
>
>But the Tascam's preamps are not bad, they're nowhere near as noisy as
>that larger Sony DAT, was it the Pro2 or something like that? The HHB's
>preamps are good, but even there I noticed a significant improvement by
>adding a Grace Design Lunatec preamp to it.
>
>Just my thoughts.
>
>Tim
>
>On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:34 AM, Klas Strandberg wrote:
>
>> I have a Tascam and when using a MKH20 (or similar), - what I then
>> hear is
>> mic noise, not Tascam noise. For noise reasons, there is no point in
>> getting an extra preamp.
>>
>> Klas.
>>
>>
>> At 09:59 2005-04-20, you wrote:
>>
>> >hello list
>> >i had a question about using condensor microphones and
>> pre-amplifiers.
>> >would the pre-amps on a tacam da-p1 dat deck be sufficient or should
>> one
>> >rather go with an external pre-amp, such as the sound devices mix pre
>> >http://www.sounddevices.com/products/mx2master.htm
>> >i want to record with two oktava mc-012 condensor microphones.
>> >i currently use a sony tcd-d8 dat. the size is great, but it has no
>> >phantom power. i want to upgrade; the question is whether to buy a
>> >pre-amp or to buy another dat which has phantom power (such as the
>> >tascam da-p1).
>> >thanks very much for any help.
>> >best regards
>> >jason kahn
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Microphones are not ears,
>> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
>> >A listening room is not nature."
>> >Klas Strandberg
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
>> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
>> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>> email:
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Microphones are not ears,
>> Loudspeakers are not birds,
>> A listening room is not nature."
>> Klas Strandberg
>>
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
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