65dB separation signal-to-noise as "dramatically
improved" is pretty irksome for "field
professionals" isn't it? Maybe they've used that
number for so long on their spec sheets they
forgot to update it. As for the 671's mic preamp
gain, can any one convert, "Mic Input
Sensitivity: 1.2mVrms/3 Kohms" into something
familiar like "dB's"? The amount of time we
spend trying to determine whether manuf's are
truthful is ridiculous. Rob D.
At 3:41 PM -0400 4/13/05, Lang Elliott wrote:
>Well, I see that you're right. That doesn't look good at all. How can they
>say that the preamps are dramatically improved, yet have such a low S/N fo=
r
>mike input?
>
>Dan?
>
>
>>
>> The data sheet linked in Lang's last post still seems to list :
>> "S-N ratio IEC-A weighted MIC=3D65 dB"
>> which is the same as was listed for the 670.
>>
>> If I'm understanding this correctly, that doesn't seem to great. Or hav=
e
>> I misunderstood?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve P
>>
>>
>> Lang Elliott wrote:
>>
>>> mmmmm. The 671 looks great.
>>>
>>> Note in the description for the 671 that they say "dramatically improv=
ed
>>> preamps"! This could be it, and just after I ordered a 722 (but I don'=
t
>>> regret it; the 671 may become my backup recorder).
>>>
>>> http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=3D3689&CatID=3D19&SubC=
atID=3D180
>>>
>>><http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=3D3689&CatID=3D19&SubCa=
tID=3D180>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually they just released the 671 which is a 24/96 version of the
>>>> 670, both of which are larger than the 660. But supposedly the 671 ha=
s
>>>> much improved mic preamps over the 670, and also 24 bit is a nice
>>>> addition.
>>>>
>>>> We took a 670 to Michigan when we recorded the steam train for Polar
>>>> Express, and let it run capturing a dynamic mic tapes near the smoke
>>>> stack, it worked well. I don't think the preamps are up to snuff for
>>>> quiet stuff, pretty noisy and bland sounding. But if the 671's are th=
at
>>>> much improved, then it's a heck of a bargain for a recorder.
>>>>
>>>> My 722 is great, but not worth three times the money. Although it's
>>>> nice to be able to record 40 hours of material, it's a bit overkill. =
A
>>>> 4 gig flash card holds plenty.
>>>>
>>>> Street price seems to be about $850 for the 671.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?
>>>> FolderID=3D3689&CatID=3D19&SubCatID=3D180
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Wild Sanctuary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We're finally getting there, folks. Anyone had any hands-on field
>>>>> experience with the Marantz PMD660? All flash cards. No moving parts=
.
>>>>> $500USD. XLR inputs. Now all we need is one with multi-gig flash
>>>>> tech in series so that we can record 24/96.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bernie
>>>>> --
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>>>>> f. 707-996-0280
>>>>> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Microphones are not ears,
>>>>> Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>>>> A listening room is not nature."
>>>>> Klas Strandberg
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Microphones are not ears,
>>>> Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>>> A listening room is not nature."
>>>> Klas Strandberg
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>> A listening room is not nature."
>>> Klas Strandberg
>>>
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>>
>>
>> "Microphones are not ears,
>> Loudspeakers are not birds,
>> A listening room is not nature."
>> Klas Strandberg
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
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