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From: Lang Elliott <>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:13:32 -0500
Marty:

Yes, I've thought about using Virtual PC for the Mac and then trying the ne=
w
Audition, but that's a lot of bucks to spend for the experiment, and soon i=
t
might not be necessary.

Maybe my best bet is to wait for Broadcast Wave (BWF) to become more firmly
established, assuming the BEXT metadata chunk will be very reliable, and
also that the BEXT metadata will survive the "save as" maneuver. That would
be great because essential data would go right along with all edits of an
original file. Do you know anything about the robustness of the BEXT chunk
in this respect?

Soundminer for the Mac (www.soundminer.com) will save files as BWAV and wil=
l
ingest Mac comment information, and they have indicated it can automaticall=
y
apply that information to the BEXT chunk. Thus, Soundminer may offer me the
most advanced approach to organizing my raw field recordings.

Then I'd just have to wait for Mac sound editing software such as PEAK to
add BWAV functionality and, I assume, the ability to read/write BEXT chunk
metadata. And hopefully "save as" won't destroy it.

Lang

p.s. Walt or others with Macs: have you tried using Virtual PC (or other PC
emulating software) to run CoolEdit Pro?


At 08:44 AM 3/28/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Richard:
>
>I'm on a Mac and cannot use either program you mention. Hopefully, BWAV wi=
ll
>be supported by the next version of PEAK sound editing software for the Ma=
c.
>And I may end up purchasing Soundminer (www.soundminer.com) for library
>management purposes. Soundminer already deals fine with BWAV files, althou=
gh
>I haven't actually seen it in action yet (I will receive a trial version
>shortly).
>
>Lang

Lang:

I have numerous friends who own nothing but Macs and they use a
window-emulating software quite successfully to run all sorts of DOS and
windows programs.  But I know very little else about it.  Walt has it and
he may have tried Cool on it, with all the sound editing he does.

The history of Cool edit program is very interesting.  A programmer living
in western Washington named Dave Johnston wrote the program initially as
shareware, called Cool96, released just when Microsoft finally had a
more-or-less stable (I didn't say SECURE) operating system.  I corresponded
with Dave several times, and he was quite amused that we use it for nature
sounds, rather than studio recording or music.

Somewhere around 2000 Syntrillium was formed, which then upgraded the
software, eventually to Cool Edit Pro. The very latest of the old
Syntrillium stuff has some annoying bugs, which I usually just work around,
like temporary windows that pop up mid-screen saying things like Copying
file, or building spectra, please wait - and then these windows persist and
do not disappear without changing modes.  But it is mostly a very reliable
workhorse.

WAV files ARE DEFINED AS RIFF FILES, a point which I have posted so often
as to be becoming obnoxious.  That said, by far most of the programs that
handle them, only honor the data chunk, and not the other types we use for
Metadata.  By that I mean if you open a WAV file in another software then
SAVE AS you come up stripped of the other RIFF chunks.

I have over eight years of cataloged recordings with RIFF holding all the
same recording data as are in my hand-written field notes, plus editing and
pasting histories.  Those files are all named BTW following the
eight-dot-three rule, also.

I send my best regards,

Marty Michener, MIST Software Assoc. Inc.,  P. O. Box 269, Hollis, NH 03049

Spring has sprung, the grass has riz.  Wonder what kind of grass it is?
Graminoids - a new book for naturalists to identify sedges and grasses.
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