I’m an ex-alderman (Darwin City Council) and know that this is the case for
many issues. Which is why I took the tourism angle.
Denise
On 10 Aug 2018, at 5:28 am, Martin Butterfield <> wrote:
> Welcome to the world of Local Government! What would get the Council's
> attention would be complaints from residents - preferably ones who pay a
> lot of rates - of the area. Outsiders jumping up and down can be safely
> ignored.
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 9 August 2018 at 21:52, Graeme Stevens <> wrote:
>
>> And no response to email.
>>
>> Graeme Stevens
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Greg
>> and Val Clancy <>
>> Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 8:10 PM
>> To: Michael Honeyman; Peter Shute
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, QLD
>>
>> I agree that we shouldn’t 'shoot from the hip' but I am still awaiting a
>> response from the Director of Works who promised to call me back days ago.
>> I have followed up but to no avail. Not a good look.
>>
>> Greg Clancy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Honeyman
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 10:27 PM
>> To: Peter Shute
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, QLD
>>
>> Very much depends on the site Peter!
>>
>> And to an extent also depends on who you ask. I’ve worked on jobs where
>> previous advice given was along the lines of ‘fill it all in and build a
>> big
>> automated plant’ and been able to recommend minor changes that kept the
>> lagoons in situ with minor modifications.
>>
>> That said vegetation to any significant degree usually risks the integrity
>> of the lining of the pond, and whether 500 rhizomes or 250 rhizomes are
>> starting to penetrate the liner is academic - they all have to come out to
>> protect the liner.
>>
>> Another factor is that ponds (usually over many years) accumulate sludge as
>> part of the way they operate and this needs to be periodically dug out one
>> way or another. If the reeds are growing in the sludge then again, they
>> have
>> to come out.
>>
>> This is all speculation on my part of course, just trying to give some
>> context as someone experienced in the design and operation of treatment
>> lagoons before the birding community shoots from the hip at too many
>> council
>> employees. In the unique situation of being both qualified as an engineer
>> and qualified as an ornithologist!
>>
>> mjh
>>
>>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 20:52, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are compromises feasible, Mike? Eg just remove half the reeds?
>>>
>>> Peter Shute
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 6:47 am, mike.honeyman <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi allThere is mention of the 'old' treatment ponds, was this a current
>>>> active treatment plant?
>>>> Excessive vegetation in treatment lagoons is not condusive to their
>>>> primary purpose - treating sewage - so if they were active lagoons there
>>>> may have been a need to have removed the veg to ensure it was working
>>>> effectively.I'm not personally familiar with this site, but have
>>>> consulted on other sites where the lagoons had reeds encroaching and the
>>>> reeds have generally had to go, birds or not.
>>>> mjh
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