Winton, QLD

[Martin Butterfield <>]

Welcome to the world of Local Government!  What would get the Council's
attention would be complaints from residents - preferably ones who pay a
lot of rates - of the area.  Outsiders jumping up and down can be safely
ignored.

Martin Butterfield
http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/

On 9 August 2018 at 21:52, Graeme Stevens <> wrote:

> And no response to email.
>
> Graeme Stevens
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Greg
> and Val Clancy <>
> Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 8:10 PM
> To: Michael Honeyman; Peter Shute
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, QLD
>
> I agree that we shouldn’t 'shoot from the hip' but I am still awaiting a
> response from the Director of Works who promised to call me back days ago.
> I have followed up but to no avail. Not a good look.
>
> Greg Clancy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Honeyman
> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 10:27 PM
> To: Peter Shute
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, QLD
>
> Very much depends on the site Peter!
>
> And to an extent also depends on who you ask. I’ve worked on jobs where
> previous advice given was along the lines of ‘fill it all in and build a
> big
> automated plant’ and been able to recommend minor changes that kept the
> lagoons in situ with minor modifications.
>
> That said vegetation to any significant degree usually risks the integrity
> of the lining of the pond, and whether 500 rhizomes or 250 rhizomes are
> starting to penetrate the liner is academic - they all have to come out to
> protect the liner.
>
> Another factor is that ponds (usually over many years) accumulate sludge as
> part of the way they operate and this needs to be periodically dug out one
> way or another. If the reeds are growing in the sludge then again, they
> have
> to come out.
>
> This is all speculation on my part of course, just trying to give some
> context as someone experienced in the design and operation of treatment
> lagoons before the birding community shoots from the hip at too many
> council
> employees. In the unique situation of being both qualified as an engineer
> and qualified as an ornithologist!
>
> mjh
>
> > On 8 Aug 2018, at 20:52, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> >
> > Are compromises feasible, Mike? Eg just remove half the reeds?
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 8 Aug 2018, at 6:47 am, mike.honeyman <>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi allThere is mention of the 'old' treatment ponds, was this a current
> >> active treatment plant?
> >> Excessive vegetation in treatment lagoons is not condusive to their
> >> primary purpose - treating sewage - so if they were active lagoons there
> >> may have been a need to have removed the veg to ensure it was working
> >> effectively.I'm not personally familiar with this site, but have
> >> consulted on other sites where the lagoons had reeds encroaching and the
> >> reeds have generally had to go, birds or not.
> >> mjh
> >> null
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