Winton, QLD

[Denise Goodfellow <>]

No response to mine as well.

Denise


On 9 Aug 2018, at 9:22 pm, Graeme Stevens <> wrote:

> And no response to email.
> 
> Graeme Stevens
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Greg and 
> Val Clancy <>
> Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2018 8:10 PM
> To: Michael Honeyman; Peter Shute
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, QLD
> 
> I agree that we shouldn’t 'shoot from the hip' but I am still awaiting a
> response from the Director of Works who promised to call me back days ago.
> I have followed up but to no avail. Not a good look.
> 
> Greg Clancy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Honeyman
> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 10:27 PM
> To: Peter Shute
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, QLD
> 
> Very much depends on the site Peter!
> 
> And to an extent also depends on who you ask. I’ve worked on jobs where
> previous advice given was along the lines of ‘fill it all in and build a big
> automated plant’ and been able to recommend minor changes that kept the
> lagoons in situ with minor modifications.
> 
> That said vegetation to any significant degree usually risks the integrity
> of the lining of the pond, and whether 500 rhizomes or 250 rhizomes are
> starting to penetrate the liner is academic - they all have to come out to
> protect the liner.
> 
> Another factor is that ponds (usually over many years) accumulate sludge as
> part of the way they operate and this needs to be periodically dug out one
> way or another. If the reeds are growing in the sludge then again, they have
> to come out.
> 
> This is all speculation on my part of course, just trying to give some
> context as someone experienced in the design and operation of treatment
> lagoons before the birding community shoots from the hip at too many council
> employees. In the unique situation of being both qualified as an engineer
> and qualified as an ornithologist!
> 
> mjh
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 20:52, Peter Shute <> wrote:
>> 
>> Are compromises feasible, Mike? Eg just remove half the reeds?
>> 
>> Peter Shute
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 6:47 am, mike.honeyman <>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi allThere is mention of the 'old' treatment ponds, was this a current
>>> active treatment plant?
>>> Excessive vegetation in treatment lagoons is not condusive to their
>>> primary purpose - treating sewage - so if they were active lagoons there
>>> may have been a need to have removed the veg to ensure it was working
>>> effectively.I'm not personally familiar with this site, but have
>>> consulted on other sites where the lagoons had reeds encroaching and the
>>> reeds have generally had to go, birds or not.
>>> mjh
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