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Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?

To: "Ian May" <>
Subject: Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?
From: "Alan Gillanders" <>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 13:03:18 +1000
Ian,
Unmanaged or undermanaged national parks are a huge problem in this country, I agree. So are the huge areas of central and northern Australia which have fewer land managers on them than fifty years ago and none of those walking the country.

However as to the causes and effects you have drawn I am not so sure. Do you have the statistics of unemployment for your state for the last decade or two? I would be interested in those on a year by year or line graph basis.
Regards,
Alan

Alan's Wildlife Tours
2 Mather Road
Yungaburra 4884

Phone 07 4095 3784
Mobile 0408 953 786
http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au/
-----Original Message----- From: Ian May
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 5:34 PM
To: Tom Tarrant
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?

Hello Tom

Yes, I like to push some buttons too however in this debate I am only an
ill informed observer.  It should be noted that reserving more than 50%
of Tasmania to unmanaged National Parks Reserves has killed this states
economy, condemned many of its residence to generations of welfare and
created the worst circumstances possible for the management of wild
fires.

But before linking recent major bushfires, droughts etc. to some peoples
theories about climate change, have a look at this.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/fireall.html

regards

Ian

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Tom Tarrant wrote:

Ian,

After all the recent fires in Tasmania, will the 'good citizens of
Tasmania' be more concerned about their economy or
climate-change?....we recently saw the writing on the wall' in the
Redcliffe by-election and I think there will be further surprises in
the forthcoming re-run of the WA senate election,  I would like to
think that there is still hope for Tassies Forests, and will still
continue to push poll-buttons (....when I'm not at work),

best of luck,

Tom


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Ian May <> wrote:

g'Day Peter, Dave and all

Perhaps most Green zealots do little else but sit around and play with their
iphones while waiting for an opportunity to push poll buttons and preach
left wing philosophy.   It probably takes more time for more productive
members of society who are mostly at work to find out or even bother with
frivolous polls in Fairfax media.
The reality seems to be, that the Green pendulum has swung back to the
right. Especially here in Tasmania, most if its good citizens appear to be fed up with the high social costs of being lumbered with green public policy that has achieved little more than to make the state a feel good playground
for visitors.
The saddest part is that despite such a high social cost, there has been
little success in achieving reasonable conservation benchmarks, i.e.
Orange-bellied Parrot. The costly green experiment appears to have failed.

regards


Ian May
PO Box 110
St Helens, Tasmania. 7216
Mob: 0428337956

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Peter Shute wrote:


It's now on 83% yes, and the vote count has increased from about 3000 when
I looked yesterday evening to nearly 120,000.

At least it's now obvious it can't be believed.

Peter Shute



-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
Of Judy Leitch
Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 8:34 AM
To: 'Dave Torr'; 'Laurie Knight'
Cc: 'birding-aus'
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?

I voted and at that time the NO vote was ahead, I checked 5 mins later
and the YES vote had doubled :( This also happened 2 weeks ago in a Gold
Coast Bulletin online poll with regards a Cruise Ship Terminal on our
wonderful Broadwater.
Check this out -

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/331994,ballot-stuffing-bot-hits-
news-ltd-polls
.aspx

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
Of Dave Torr
Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 7:19 AM
To: Laurie Knight
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?

It is well known that all Fairfax readers are left-wing, tree-hugging
greenies so why would any good conservative government any any attention to
such a poll?


On 5 March 2014 17:55, Laurie Knight <> wrote:



There is a link between the conservation estate and the

preservation

of wildlife.

The Australian PM is quoted as saying "We don't support, as a government
and as a Coalition, further lockouts of our

forests ...We

have quite enough National Parks, we have quite enough locked up forests
already. In fact, in an important respect, we have too much locked


up forest."


There is a poll in the Fairfax media that runs until 9 pm

EST, 10 pm

EDST and 7 pm WST where you can note your opinion.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-
news/no-more-national-parks-as-tony-abbott-pledges-to-
support-loggers-as-the-ultimate-conservationists-20140305-345zp.html

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