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Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?

To: Ian May <>
Subject: Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 11:35:54 +1100
I think the recent swing in the poll shows that other people also have time
to waste!

But seriously - it is of concern to me (and I am sure others) that those
who care about the environment and wish to preserve habitat for birds and
help to conserve them seem to be labelled with a highly derogatory "Green"
label, when we may have no connection with other elements of "green"
policy. Perhaps you have a solution to that Ian?


On 6 March 2014 11:12, Ian May <> wrote:

>
> g'Day Peter, Dave and all
>
>  Perhaps most Green zealots do little else but sit around and play with
> their iphones while waiting for an opportunity to push poll buttons and
> preach left wing philosophy.   It probably takes more time for more
> productive members of society who are mostly at work to find out or even
> bother with frivolous polls in Fairfax media.
>
> The reality seems to be, that the Green pendulum has swung back to the
> right.  Especially here in Tasmania, most if its good citizens appear to
> be fed up with the high social costs of being lumbered with green public
> policy that has achieved little more than to make the state a feel good
> playground for visitors.
>
> The saddest part is that despite such a high social cost, there has been
> little success in achieving reasonable conservation benchmarks, i.e.
> Orange-bellied Parrot.   The costly green experiment appears to have
> failed.
> regards
>
>
> Ian May
> PO Box 110
> St Helens, Tasmania. 7216
> Mob: 0428337956
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> Peter Shute wrote:
>
> It's now on 83% yes, and the vote count has increased from about 3000 when I 
> looked yesterday evening to nearly 120,000.
>
> At least it's now obvious it can't be believed.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus
>  
> <>] On Behalf Of Judy Leitch
> Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 8:34 AM
> To: 'Dave Torr'; 'Laurie Knight'
> Cc: 'birding-aus'
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too Many
> National Parks?
>
> I voted and at that time the NO vote was ahead, I checked 5
> mins later and the YES vote had doubled :( This also happened
> 2 weeks ago in a Gold Coast Bulletin online poll with regards
> a Cruise Ship Terminal on our wonderful Broadwater.
> Check this out -
> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/331994,ballot-stuffing-bot-hits-
> news-ltd-polls
> .aspx
>
> Judy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus
>  
> <>] On Behalf Of Dave Torr
> Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 7:19 AM
> To: Laurie Knight
> Cc: birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too Many
> National Parks?
>
> It is well known that all Fairfax readers are left-wing,
> tree-hugging greenies so why would any good conservative
> government any any attention to such a poll?
>
>
> On 5 March 2014 17:55, Laurie Knight <> 
> <> wrote:
>
>
>
>  There is a link between the conservation estate and the
>
>
>  preservation
>
>
>  of wildlife.
>
> The Australian PM is quoted as saying "We don't support, as a
> government and as a Coalition, further lockouts of our
>
>
>  forests ...We
>
>
>  have quite enough National Parks, we have quite enough locked up
> forests already. In fact, in an important respect, we have too much
> locked
>
>
>  up forest."
>
>
>  There is a poll in the Fairfax media that runs until 9 pm
>
>
>  EST, 10 pm
>
>
>  EDST and 7 pm WST where you can note your opinion.
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-
> news/no-more-national-parks-as-tony-abbott-pledges-to-
> support-loggers-as-the-ultimate-conservationists-20140305-345zp.html
>
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