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sex, not gender

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: sex, not gender
From: Merrilyn Serong <>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:59:21 +1100
'Sex' is the correct term in biology. The word 'gender' won't be found in biological texts or biological dictionaries. I wonder if some non-biologists who use the term 'gender' in biological contexts use it as a euphemism because they are uncomfortable with the word 'sex'. Just a thought.
Cheers,
Merrilyn

On 22/01/2013 11:39 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
So it's just a convention, nothing to do with correct or incorrect application 
of the current definition?

Peter Shute

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of
Merrilyn Serong
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:20 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] sex, not gender

In biology, the correct term to describe the sex of an animal
is 'sex'.
'Gender' is not used.
In particular, the term 'sex' is used in sexual dimorphism,
sex characteristics, sex chromosomes, etc.
Cheers,
Merrilyn (wearing my biologist hat)

On 22/01/2013 10:41 AM,  wrote:
That is no longer true, at least in the U.S.  While I was
taught that
words have gender, people have sex, the advent of gender
studies at universities
   (they couldn't really call it sex studies) and increasing popular
use of gender  has made it a proper usage , and it is now
accepted in
the major dictionaries.
Eric Jeffrey
Falls Church, VA 22043
In a message dated 1/21/2013 6:36:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 writes:

Good  explanation  here:

http://www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html

Ian

On  22/01/2013 9:55 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
How come?

Peter  Shute

-----Original Message-----
From:  
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   Jonny Schoenjahn
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2013 6:35 PM
   To: Birding-Aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] sex, not  gender

Hi Denise,

you were  referring to the sex of those Accipiters, not
their gender.
   Cutting a sociolinguistic explanation short: as fas as
ornithology
is concerned, birds have a sex, but no gender.

   Cheers,
Jonny

Jonny Schoenjahn
   Perth WA
   





   Denise wrote on 12 January 2013:
"In the Top End size range for  male Brown Goshawk is
33-42 cm while
for Collared Sparrowhawk it's  30-40 cm (both genders)."
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