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sex, not gender

To: 'Merrilyn Serong' <>, "" <>
Subject: sex, not gender
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:39:48 +1100
So it's just a convention, nothing to do with correct or incorrect application 
of the current definition?

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From:  
>  On Behalf Of 
> Merrilyn Serong
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:20 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] sex, not gender
> 
> In biology, the correct term to describe the sex of an animal 
> is 'sex'. 
> 'Gender' is not used.
> In particular, the term 'sex' is used in sexual dimorphism, 
> sex characteristics, sex chromosomes, etc.
> Cheers,
> Merrilyn (wearing my biologist hat)
> 
> On 22/01/2013 10:41 AM,  wrote:
> > That is no longer true, at least in the U.S.  While I was 
> taught that 
> > words have gender, people have sex, the advent of gender 
> studies at universities
> >   (they couldn't really call it sex studies) and increasing popular 
> > use of gender  has made it a proper usage , and it is now 
> accepted in 
> > the major dictionaries.
> >   
> > Eric Jeffrey
> > Falls Church, VA 22043
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > In a message dated 1/21/2013 6:36:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> >  writes:
> >
> > Good  explanation  here:
> >
> > http://www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > On  22/01/2013 9:55 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
> >> How come?
> >>
> >> Peter  Shute
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:  
> >>>    On Behalf Of
> >>>   Jonny Schoenjahn
> >>> Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2013 6:35 PM
> >>>   To: Birding-Aus
> >>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] sex, not  gender
> >>>
> >>> Hi Denise,
> >>>
> >>> you were  referring to the sex of those Accipiters, not 
> their gender.
> >>>   Cutting a sociolinguistic explanation short: as fas as 
> ornithology  
> >>> is concerned, birds have a sex, but no gender.
> >>>
> >>>   Cheers,
> >>> Jonny
> >>>
> >>> Jonny Schoenjahn
> >>>   Perth WA
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   Denise wrote on 12 January 2013:
> >>> "In the Top End size range for  male Brown Goshawk is 
> 33-42 cm while 
> >>> for Collared Sparrowhawk it's  30-40 cm (both genders)."
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