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sex, not gender

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Subject: sex, not gender
From: Andrew Hobbs <>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 08:09:12 +0800
I would disagree. Unless, that is, you specifically designate 'gender' only to refer to humans, which no dictionary to which I have referred, does so.

In fact, even using the distinction as given in the Monash University reference, unless you can get up close and personal to determine primary sexual characteristics or structures, or have access to tissue to determine whether it has a ZZ or ZW chromosome complement, then in many species you can only determine the gender of a bird. From that you have to infer its sex.

However, as Eric Jeffrey has mentioned, most English dictionaries accept the word 'gender' as a synonym for sex in informal useage.

Andrew


On 22/01/2013 7:33 AM, Ian Reid wrote:
Good explanation here:

http://www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html

Ian

On 22/01/2013 9:55 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
How come?

Peter Shute

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Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2013 6:35 PM
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Subject: [Birding-Aus] sex, not gender

Hi Denise,

you were referring to the sex of those Accipiters, not their gender.
Cutting a sociolinguistic explanation short: as fas as
ornithology is concerned, birds have a sex, but no gender.

Cheers,
Jonny

Jonny Schoenjahn
Perth WA






Denise wrote on 12 January 2013:
"In the Top End size range for male Brown Goshawk is 33-42 cm
while for Collared Sparrowhawk it's 30-40 cm (both genders)."
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